Growler 10 string, 3x4

[David Gresens]

Hi all,

Anyone have experience with these? Any reviews?
Lets get crazy and take it one step further… Growler or Justice S10 3x4? Differences between the two?

Any input is appreciated!

Thanks,
David

[Ross Shafer]

without a doubt the Justice!!!

[Rick Grieco]

No disrespect to the Growler, but I highly recommend the Justice 3x4. I absolutely love mine!!

[Donny Hinson]

The Growler uses a pull/release changer, and the Justice has an all-pull design. (The all-pull is a more modern and capable mechanism.) The Growler uses a wood pedalboard, and the Justice uses a metal one. (The metal pedalboard is stronger, more rigid.) The Justice uses standard legs w/machined endplates, more indicative of a pro-level guitar.

However, if cost is an issue for you, the Growler would be $700-$800 cheaper. So it all depends on you budget, and if a more professional model is something you want or need.

[David Gresens]

The cost would be a factor. To save $500-800, I guess I wonder if a Growler is a safe landing spot or if its junk. Sounds great online from the few clips avail but…

[Bill McCloskey]

It is not just cost but resell value. If this is your first pedal steel, chances are it won't be your last. I find it valuable to invest in instruments that hold their resell value. If you get a used Justice, You are most likely going to be able to sell it for what you paid for it.

[Susie Fine]

Hi! Growler Steel Guitars offers a beautiful 6 string at $995. We also offer a trade in option for our Growler models - we will take your Growler/ShoNuff trade to upgrade to one our of different models available. Check us out and give me a call! Susie 843-685-9447

Here is an upgraded Growler 6 recently built and headed to Texas

[Susie Fine]

I love the fact that everyone has commented on the Growler and Shonuff steel guitars, but none of you guys have played one. I build these guitars one at a time, we offer wrap around end plates, chrome legs aluminum pedal boards but you don’t mention any of this and no my guitars are not junk, but I have a price point for everyone. We take or back in on trade the undercarriage has a lifetime warranty, not 90 days. So if u want to comment on Growler Steel guitars please get one and play it. I don’t talk negatively about anyone’s guitars, I wish everyone that wants a guitar buys it. Please come to North Carolina would love to talk to you.

[Fred Treece]

I really really wish a pedal steel guitar like this had been available 45 years ago, when I could not afford a nice S10 and did not have the skill or the time to fix up a banger and learn how to play.

[Donny Hinson]

Susie, point of information: The only guitar you make that is mentioned in this thread is the Growler. I just looked at your website, and it does not mention that wrap around end plates, chrome legs, or aluminum pedal boards are available on that brand of guitar, though it does mention these options are available on the ShoNuff brand, which you also make.

[Susie Fine]

You can make a Growler or Shonuff as expensive or inexpensive as your budgets allow, most people just starting out want high quality for the least money. So we try to offer that. But if you have questions about our guitars please call and my husband Kelly, who is the buildee, or I will be glad to cover any information you need. Thanks for the response.

[Susie Fine]

You can make a Growler or Shonuff as expensive or inexpensive as your budgets allow, most people just starting out want high quality for the least money. So we try to offer that. But if you have questions about our guitars please call and my husband Kelly, who is the buildee, or I will be glad to cover any information you need. Thanks for the response.

[Bill McCloskey]

I thought Jimmy Hudson made the growler. What is Jimmy's connection?

[Susie Fine]

Jimmie Hudson is my uncle. My Aunt passed a year ago and Jimmie is also experiencing health issues. My husband Kelly and I were fortunate enough to be able to take over Growler Steel Guitars. Jimmie has spent the past year guiding and teaching us his techniques. We have produced over 100+ guitars so far and going strong! Our shop is located just a few miles from Jimmie’s and he builds our custom cases.

[Glenn Featherman]

Jimmie Hudson is my uncle. My Aunt passed a year ago and Jimmie is also experiencing health issues. My husband Kelly and I were fortunate enough to be able to take over Growler Steel Guitars. Jimmie has spent the past year guiding and teaching us his techniques. We have produced over 100+ guitars so far and going strong! Our shop is located just a few miles from Jimmie’s and he builds our custom cases.

I bought a six string Growler from Jimmie February 2023. Love it. I have played it on 2 gigs. It let me get into steel at a good price. Thank you Jimmie!

[Tim Toberer]

These guitars look really great, perfect for a beginner. I am so glad to see that this is continuing on! Jimmie's work has been a huge inspiration for me, especially his resonator guitars. I think his designs are brilliant.

[Susie Fine]

Thanks guys, Jimmie was just at our shop, he was thankful for the kind words. He’s having health issues so say a prayer for him.

[Ron Hogan]

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[Bill McCloskey]

I'm not sure it was mentioned in this thread but according the email I received from Susie Fine, the Growler is not upgradable to a 3x4. The design precludes adding more levers (2x2 is the only configuration). I got interested in the 6 string that Chris Glass plays, with the 3x4 G tuning. But the growler is out. I'm still waiting to hear from jackson.

[Susie Fine]

Hi Bill, we don’t upgrade the Growler 6 to 3/4, because u can buy the Growler 10 for the same cost, very close. So the Growler 10 comes standard with 3/4 setup a standard model black with case is 1395. If u add rear adjustable legs and an aluminum fret board with case it’s 1595.00. Just a clarification.

[Bill McCloskey]

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

"because u can buy the Growler 10 for the same cost,"

In the email you sent me, you stated the reason was: "We realized because of the way pull release system is designed we can’t add the 3-4 knee"

Could you clarify whether it is a matter of cost or design? The reason I ask is someone who already owns a 6 string 2x2 might want to upgrade, so cost is not a factor. But if it is a design problem and it can't be upgraded, the buyer should understand that.

[Johnie King]

If you’re near Nashville or passing through give me a call we can pick out a time that works for you too check out the Growler ten string an six string an a Sho Nuff
Blonde lacquer steel..

Wayne Dahl , Chris Castle , Mike Bourque an Eddy Dunlap did demos on the Growler steels 6 string an 10 string
On my wife’s Facebook account Sue King !

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[Fred Treece]

I got interested in the 6 string that Chris Glass plays, with the 3x4 G tuning. But the growler is out. I'm still waiting to hear from jackson.

You probably realize that was a special order, since the Jackson Maverick 6-string is 2x2 standard and tuned to open E. It looks like Chris has an X account link on his YouTube site; maybe send him an inquiry.

From what I understand, a guitar set up with a pull-release changer is nearly impossible for anyone but an experienced pedal steel mechanic to alter the initial configuration (I have a Stage One and was strongly advised not to mess with it). Plus, a production shop is not necessarily set up for alterations.

[Bill McCloskey]

Yeah, I've given up on the whole idea. Temporary moment of insanity I guess. I thought it would be kind of fun to have something the 6 string neck of the MSA Tour pro and hook a dobro simulator up to it. Heard back from Dawn at Jackson and they can do it but a price higher than I want to pay.

[Johnie King]

If I could play like Chris Glass on Six string pedal steel I would be perfectly satisfied with a Growler 6 string 2 an 2 .