Lazy River Baritone Weiss sound clip

Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 10 Nov 2004 3:37 pm

Here's a clip of my good buddy and teacher, Pete Grant, playing a part of "Galway Boy" on the new Lazy River baritone Weiss today. It's an amazing guitar.

Crank up the speakers...best to stop and restart it for a smooth run thru.
http://www.dahothouse.com/music/bari.mp3

Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 10 Nov 2004 3:46 pm

Very impressive Ron !
Congratulations !
Pete seems to know what he is
doing there.

Great playing!
Thanks for sharing.

Roy

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 10 Nov 2004 4:03 pm

Terry Farmer · Post by **Terry Farmer** » 10 Nov 2004 4:14 pm

Sweet! You said that instrument has something to say and you were right. I wonder what it will teach you.

Steinar Gregertsen · Post by **Steinar Gregertsen** » 10 Nov 2004 4:26 pm

Phew...... That baby sure sounds huge! Congratulations Ron, now you can just start waiting for it to really open up,- if it works out anything like mine then you really have something to look forward to.
Now I've got to start saving money for the Lazy River alto-weissenborn I've been thinking of lately.........

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Travis Bernhardt · Post by **Travis Bernhardt** » 10 Nov 2004 4:33 pm

Ooooh. Aaaaah.

-Travis

P.S. It sounds like two different guitars, almost. And I love that "piano-like" bass.

P.P.S. Get thee to a David Lindley album, for one very cool take on what to do with all that power.

Ed Altrichter · Post by **Ed Altrichter** » 10 Nov 2004 5:51 pm

Ron, that is so totally impressive !
How you doin' on "Ghost Riders", by the way ?
Ed

Bill Blacklock · Post by **Bill Blacklock** » 10 Nov 2004 6:45 pm

BIG SOUND!! it must just fill the whole room, I can only imagine the amount of vibration that builds up in the box. Thanks for the clip. Great picken / Bill

Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 10 Nov 2004 8:04 pm

Thanks for the comments guys!

I got a lot of practising to do is what this guitar has shown me in the last two days. But it's all fun and I'm having a great time with it and music in general. But I just have to say, Pete Grant has been a fantastic teacher and gives me plenty to shoot for. It's good, it's really good!

Ed - I'm still working on it...

Travis - I'm a big David Lindley fan!

Bill - Soon as yours gets there let me know, I'd like to talk off the forum about them in detail.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Ron Bednar on 10 November 2004 at 08:06 PM.]</p></FONT>

Dan Sawyer · Post by **Dan Sawyer** » 10 Nov 2004 8:40 pm

Sure sounds good! BTW, how are you tuning it?

Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 10 Nov 2004 9:22 pm

Dan - thanks, I think so too. It's tuned to open A , with the D shape, A E A C# E A. I was thinking of trying it up a bit but it sounds so good in A. One thing though, the 6th string is a little looser than the rest so I'm going to try a bit heavier gauge to bring up it's tension. It's really something getting down that low. After playing it exculsively for a couple days my reso feels and kinda sounds like a banjo. I better duck after saying that!

Travis Bernhardt · Post by **Travis Bernhardt** » 11 Nov 2004 1:38 am

Oh yeah, I think you might have written that already in some previous thread... With the tuning you're using, I suggest learning Lindley's arrangement of "How can a Poor Man Face Such Times and Live?" It's got pretty much all of Lindley's open D shape techniques in one song. "Rag Bag" might be a little easier, though (except for the solo). The simplest Lindley tune to try (except for the intro) would be his version of "Play it All Night Long," which is in DADGAD (or, in your case, AEADEA).

If you tune it to an open C shape dropped down to G, I'd love to hear how "The Meatman" would sound on that guitar. That's another good song to learn. All these songs are great ones to learn if you want to learn to play solo on that thing.

Man, you're gonna have so much fun...

-Travis

Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 11 Nov 2004 10:15 am

That sounds great, Ron!

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Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 11 Nov 2004 10:43 am

Thanks Dan! Phew, that Mermer of yours is a killer too!

What scale length is it, and what tuning do you use? It's a gorgeous looking and sounding guitar. We ought to start a giant weiss club!

Bill Blacklock · Post by **Bill Blacklock** » 12 Nov 2004 5:19 pm

Ron,
I was wondering how you’re making out with those big strings? With all that vibration is there a need to go to a larger bar. I’ve always played with a Stevens bar (old dobro player) but with the larger strings of a baritone should I be thinking about ordering something with a little more weight to it to keep the chatter down?
Bill

Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 12 Nov 2004 6:48 pm

Bill - I think looking into a heavier bar might be a good idea. I am kind of stuck with what I have now, a custom bar built for me by Gary Swallows. I say stuck because I have nerve damage in my left hand and need the wood handle, with a leather ring to boot, just to hang onto it. I can't even hold a regular bar. Pete uses John Pearse cryo bars and they are heavier with a bullet nose, I'd recommend one of those. I'm going to see if I can adapt a handle to one for myself.

BTW, I'm stepping that bottom string up to an 85 or 86.

Pete Grant · Post by **Pete Grant** » 13 Nov 2004 9:10 pm

You're right, Bill, about all that vibration. I used the big John Pearse bar when I played that organically grown Weissenborn. As I recall, it immediately asked me to do so.

Craig Prior · Post by **Craig Prior** » 13 Nov 2004 9:49 pm

Sitar-like. Evocative in a Satyajit Ray/Ravi Shankar sort of way.

It has the sound of a very wise instrument.

Seriously. I loved that clip.

Craig.

Ron Bednar · Post by **Ron Bednar** » 13 Nov 2004 10:04 pm

Craig - The instrument AND the player are both wise in this case. I love the clip too... Compared to Pete's, my version is a tree without leaves, just the bare branches. Maybe by Spring I'll have a few buds.

Bill Blacklock · Post by **Bill Blacklock** » 14 Nov 2004 12:16 am

85 or 86, Wow! now your logging. Peter, I dug through my pile of strings and things and came up with a long forgotten 3"x 3/4" Dunlop bar, so that will get me started. If I order the John Pearse bar should I go with the 1" dia.? Thanks / Bill

Pete Grant · Post by **Pete Grant** » 14 Nov 2004 11:27 am

Yes, the John Pearse 1" bar works quite nicely. That's what I used.