Buddy Emmons: Amp Question

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 7 Dec 2002 8:04 pm

Buddy

Are you playing your new Standel? What model is it? Tubes, SS?

thx

bob

Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 8 Dec 2002 6:05 am

My Standel is the 25L15 Vintage Plus, which is a reissue of the original tube model. Two additons to the amp are an effects loop and a XLR direct output. The speaker is a 15" JBL D130.

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 8 Dec 2002 6:58 am

Thanks, Buddy

Is that the same type you got from Mike Cass or was that solid state?

Does the new one (tubes) have enough power to keep up with the band?

thx

bob

Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 8 Dec 2002 7:41 am

The amp Mike gave me is a solid state Custom model similar to the one I used on the early Price records. The new Standel is 100 watts and has the warm sound of the Standel I used on my first Columbia instrumentals. It does a better job of keeping up with the band than I, so I kind of regret having it in a way, as it eliminates having a bad amp day as an excuse for a bungled performance.

Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 8 Dec 2002 12:22 pm

Buddy-I wish I could have played as well as you did on one of your "Bungled Performances". What year was that?..al

Dave Robbins · Post by **Dave Robbins** » 8 Dec 2002 7:46 pm

Buddy is still the only one that even "if" he did make a "mistake" I'd still want to go learn it!!!!!!

Go get 'em Slash!

Dave

Fred Shannon · Post by **Fred Shannon** » 8 Dec 2002 9:06 pm

Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is one, just one, of Mr. Emmons' "bungled performances" and that's it. It doesnt' even have to be gift wrapped.

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Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 9 Dec 2002 2:31 am

" A Bad Amp Day "...

Now thats the ticket....I've used all sorts of excuses , some may have even approached making sense to the brainless ..but.."A Bad Amp Day"..now there's one I'm gonna start using , who could dispute that ?

I would agree with Dave here..I great Steel night would be one where I learned all Buddy's mistakes and played them flawlessly !

"The damn pitch control isn't working again" .." I'm taking this piece of crxx back first thing Monday"

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Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 9 Dec 2002 5:15 am

Al,
"What year was that?" As best I remember, it was in the Spring of 1956 while working with Little Jimmy Dickens. Come to think of it, I was using a Standel at the time, which goes to show you when you're young and green, you'll blame it on anything.

The only other time that comes to mind was when I was playing at the Foothill club in California, fell asleep and dreamed I was in my kitchen trying to get the refrigerator door open. I missed an entire solo that night. As for the amp, it was a Fender Twin.

[This message was edited by Buddy Emmons on 09 December 2002 at 05:22 AM.]

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 9 Dec 2002 5:56 am

That's what those Fenders can do to you!!!

Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 9 Dec 2002 10:02 am

Buddy,
Is that new Standel like the old ones which had an input jack on each end of the face plate which the guys used to use a "Y" chord on to play both channels? Also glad you mentioned the old Foothill Club. I did a couple of years there with Billy Mize in the late 70's....Have a great day. JH

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Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 9 Dec 2002 12:38 pm

Jerry,
I have an extra mellow in, but it's preset and located next to the normal input. My original 1955 model had a hidden second or "secret" input in the back so no one could plug into your amp while you were playing unless you wanted them to. I didn't have the amp six months until musicians were looking in the back end to see where they had placed it… so much for secrecy. Outside of that laughable feature, Bob Crooks, the designer, had a pretty good head on his shoulders.
My solid state Standel has two channels but has been modified so I can plug into the normal input and use both EQ sections.

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 9 Dec 2002 1:10 pm

Buddy,

Do the SS and tube versions sound totally different, or is there a common tone quality between them?

Also, are you still using your Roland GP-100?

thx

bob

Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 9 Dec 2002 3:26 pm

Bob,
There is a common tonality with the tube model being a bit warmer. I am presently using a Lexicon MPX G2 guitar effects processor. Here's the skinny I copped from their web page regarding that particular model:

"The MPX G2 is the only effects processor that lets you put effects anywhere you want in front of your amp, in its effects loop, or both. Or use it for recording direct, with no amp at all! Analog and digital effects 76 in all, as many as seven at once. Analog distortion and overdrive, and authentic recreations of vintage stomp boxes."

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 9 Dec 2002 4:13 pm

I guess its time to take my Yamaha GEP-50 out of the rack and get one of those!

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 9 Dec 2002 5:02 pm

Thanks, Buddy

I'm still real happy with the GP-100 and have never tried the Lexxy. Now see what you done?

Seriously, if you have time, would you describe what you like about the Lexicon especially compared to the GP-100?

As always, your input here is most appreciated.

thx

bob

Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 10 Dec 2002 11:36 am

Bob,
I suppose Lexicon and GP-100 are close effects wise but the Lexicon is one space and more user-friendly. Having played through the old MXR stomp boxes, the recreation of those and other easy to set vintage boxes is a nice feature.
Another MPX G2 plus is having a starter patch with no effects that gives you the generic sound of the instrument. As with all effects units I've used, it's not quite the same sound. But with the addition of the EQ section, you can bring it close or enhance it a bit. Once you have the dry sound you want for your steel, you add the effects.

Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 10 Dec 2002 11:55 pm

I've got to agree with Buddy that the stomp box recreations in the Lexicon are a real plus for this unit. They are better than spot on, in that they don't suck tone and sound crappy when the batteries die, but they exactly recreate the sounds of many of those boxes like the MXR compressor, phase shifters, etc. The ability to place some effects before the preamp and some in the efx loop is also really great, and an improvement over the GP-100. The GP-100 amp models are a lot better than the Lexicon, but if you already have a killer tube amp, who needs them......

Also, the reverbs on the Lexicon are better (IMHO) than the GP-100. Not that any of us steel players care about reverb.

Gee, maybe I'd better dust off my Lexicon and start using it again.....

I can't wait to hear Buddy playing through this amp.

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Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 11 Dec 2002 5:58 am

Let me add that the GP-100 is one space and user friendly too. It was the Digitech 2112 that ran me crazy setting it. Sorry about that, but after using a dozen or so different brands, they start running together.
It's true that my amp takes care the tone settings I looked for in various effects processors. I spent over three thousand dollars for the Standel, but had I done it eight thousand dollars ago, I'd have saved the difference. It's not for everyone, but I started my professional career with the Standel sound, and when I lost it, there was no other way to get it back.

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 11 Dec 2002 6:07 am

STANDEL