George L's cord's

A. J. Schobert · Post by **A. J. Schobert** » 17 Dec 2006 5:07 pm

Why do so many PSG players like George L's solderless cord's? I always liked solder'd type myself and with an elbow at one end.What if the cord suddenly has a bad connection during a song? ouch!

Joe Smith · Post by **Joe Smith** » 17 Dec 2006 5:32 pm

I have two reasons that I like them. They don't take up a lot of space in my pack a seat and they are easy to fix if you get a bad connection. All you need is a pair of wire cutters and a small screw driver. I'm sure that there are other cables that sound as good maybe even better. They also come with elbows. [This message was edited by Joe Smith on 17 December 2006 at 05:34 PM.]

Bill Duve · Post by **Bill Duve** » 17 Dec 2006 5:37 pm

I dont know

I do know I found one I do like in a music store in Warren PA and wish I had more shorter ones, Trouble is, I dont remember the name.....thin soft and pliable and I dont trip over it !

Tim Walker · Post by **Tim Walker** » 17 Dec 2006 5:51 pm

They are easy to custom fit on a pedalboard so you don't have excess cable in your circuit, but for me the easy repair factor wins it.

Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 17 Dec 2006 6:18 pm

When a soldered cable goes bad, you have to find a soldering iron,etc,etc. When a GeoL goes bad,all you need is a sharp knife [standard issue in most clubs]and a small screwdriver. A trick I do, print out on your computer, vpfront..fxin etc, cut out, and put on cable ends under clear heatsrink tubing leaving a couple inches room for future repairs. Helps a lot when you set up.

Bill

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 17 Dec 2006 6:24 pm

"What if the cord suddenly has a bad connection during a song? ouch!"

1. What Bill Ford said.

2. In at least 15 years of using them, I've never HAD one go bad on stage. Ever. If you assemble them even halfway carefully, they are more reliable than soldered cables in my experience.

And they do make a significant difference soundwise.

Bruce Bouton · Post by **Bruce Bouton** » 17 Dec 2006 6:51 pm

GeorgeL cables sound better than anything I've ever used. The other day Randy beavers , Wayne Dahl and Myself were being steel nerds. When Wayne tried our george L's, his tone was noticably better.
BB

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 17 Dec 2006 7:18 pm

I must agree with Bruce, and I also found noticebly less hum and noise when I cabled my rack with them. A better quality all-round cable would be hard to find.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 17 Dec 2006 8:27 pm

I use them for my steel which definitely improves my overall sound, but I also use them for acoustic and electric guitar. The acoustic, especially, sounds more crisp and cleaner through the George L's. And there's no denying their overall neatness in a gear setup. I can't see myself going back to soldered cables.

Billy Carr · Post by **Billy Carr** » 17 Dec 2006 8:41 pm

All I use is George L. It's the only cord I carry in my steel shop also.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 17 Dec 2006 10:49 pm

As Bruce said, the George L cables result in a clearer tone than any other cables I've heard. Some say that tone is in the hands but George L cables are clear proof of improved tone through superior equipment. They are the highest rated cable in Guitar Player Magazine. As Jim said, they are also far more reliable than soldered cables and can be repaired if need be in about thirty seconds. I wouldn't use anything else.[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 17 December 2006 at 10:50 PM.]

Frank Parish · Post by **Frank Parish** » 18 Dec 2006 5:34 am

For all the reasons above, easy fix and no soldering and I've had mine for close to 15 years. Try that with the other cables. I just bought my son a 12 ft Monster guitar cable for $49 delivered from Musicians friend. I don't have half that in all my GL chords for two complete rigs and then some. Hey for r/r I guess them Monster chords will do.

Hook Moore · Post by **Hook Moore** » 18 Dec 2006 6:26 am

I totally agree, GeorgeL is all I`ve used for a very long time without a failure plus you can build a GeorgeL cable and start using it in less time than it takes to find your soldering gear. GeorgeL also has the angle ends AJ. Merry Christmas

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Ronald Sikes · Post by **Ronald Sikes** » 18 Dec 2006 7:55 am

I've had mine 6 years and not 1 problem yet.I usually play 2 to 3 times a week.

A. J. Schobert · Post by **A. J. Schobert** » 18 Dec 2006 7:55 am

I really can't imagine one cord sounding better than another but I'll give it a try, I always used Horizon cables, but if it improves sound I am all for that, now on a soldered cable if it is soldered right you should have a maintenance free cable where as the George L are more of a mechanical "lock" and will need maintenance thats why I always stayed away. I am surprissed every one is pro George L I'll have to get me some when I am out!

Mike Shefrin · Post by **Mike Shefrin** » 18 Dec 2006 8:24 am

I tried George L cables. I think these sound wayyyyy better.

T. C. Furlong · Post by **T. C. Furlong** » 18 Dec 2006 8:37 am

I have had intermittent failures with George L skinny cables, especailly with the right-angle plug. I still use them though. They take up less room in the old pack-a-seat. I notice that they have more highs than a cheap cable. That's because they are lower capacitance. There are many other low capacitance cables too. I don't like Monster Cable products for a variety of reasons. I do like Canare cables. I always prefer a nice solder joint for reliability.
TC

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 18 Dec 2006 8:46 am

I think you need just one high quality (low-capacitance) cable, and that is to go from your pickup to a buffer amp. After that, the other cables don't affect the sound. At least that is my experience. But it has been years since I did these tests. What is your experience?

T. C. Furlong · Post by **T. C. Furlong** » 18 Dec 2006 9:40 am

I agree with Mr. Bovine's assesment. The critical path is from the pickup to the input stage/buffer amp. Some players chose to have other things in the path including volume pedal, effects pedals, tuners, etc. These things will alter tone as compared to a straight path. I like going into my Revelation Tube Preamp right out of the guitar with a George L cable. I use the loops in the preamp for volume pedal and effects. Sweet. I still use George L cables for the loops but only because they are small.
TC
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Colby Tipton · Post by **Colby Tipton** » 18 Dec 2006 9:46 am

I use George L cords from my steel to volume pedal and from the pedal to the amp. I use 2 cheaper cords on my delay. I don't know if they make a real big difference, maybe just a little bit. To me my Sho~Bud sounds like a Sho~Bud even with the George L cords.

Colby

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 18 Dec 2006 9:57 am

I use George's cables for all the above reasons, and because I personally like Kim and Leesa... George's daughters who run the biz... a great deal. And their father is a truly remarkable man for a lot of reasons.

But that wouldn't matter if the cables didn't sound as good as any made, and weren't reliable.

BTW... again mattering little to this discussion... George Lewis is/was one of the main men from Sho~Bud in the 60's, and he's a veteran of Pearl Harbor. That makes him one of the last of the Mohicans in both of those very historical periods in our history.

And he's a Freemason, as well.

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Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 18 Dec 2006 10:06 am

Nice people...great products...we are lucky to have them.

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A. J. Schobert · Post by **A. J. Schobert** » 18 Dec 2006 12:15 pm

Thanks T. C., and thanks for the little history lesson Herb I would have never know that.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 18 Dec 2006 12:44 pm

I also highly recommend the little cable tester that George L have available too, very handy for tracking down a cable fault quickly...and they take up very little space in your seat!

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 18 Dec 2006 2:13 pm

Didn't Bill Lawrence design them?
I think there are other cables that sound better but the difference is minimal and the convenience factor of the George L's makes up for any sonic shortcomings.