Need a great F/X processor---programmer

Randy Carson · Post by **Randy Carson** » 5 Oct 2005 4:33 pm

who knows of someone that can take a proccesor and program it right!!! and i mean double right!
i would gladly pay someone to program an effects unit RIGHT!
and would buy the right unit also,
REALLY TWO QUESTIONS
which machine
which programmer?

Randy
randycarson@onebox.com 512 350 5047[This message was edited by Randy Carson on 05 October 2005 at 05:34 PM.]

Bob Knight · Post by **Bob Knight** » 5 Oct 2005 7:29 pm

TubeFex!!

Randy Carson · Post by **Randy Carson** » 5 Oct 2005 8:32 pm

thanks bob,
ive had a profex ll, but i was looking more at a higher quality product like a nice Lexicon that someone could do some cool programming things with.

but thanks, you never know i may be there again.
randy

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Oct 2005 2:07 am

I have a T.C. Electronic G-Major unit and there are quite a few "factory" programs that work well for steel and no modifications are needed.

The only unit of that type that I've found has programs that will work well with a steel. I tried a Lexicon MPX1 and it has very few (plus the two new MPX1's I tried both were defective).

The G-Major is made for musical instruments, many of the units, such as the Lexicon's are primarily designed for P.A. or studio, not really "guitars".

John Daugherty · Post by **John Daugherty** » 6 Oct 2005 5:22 am

I am quite pleased with the Lexicon MPX 110. I like the "knobs" that allow instant control of the "mix", "input level" and "output level". It is very quiet. Other processors I tried were noisy. I have not tried them all, but was so impressed with the Lexicon that I quit looking for the "holy grail" and now use one in my home studio and one in my portable rack.

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Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 6 Oct 2005 6:06 am

"higher quality"? You mean higher priced for the same quality. The Tubefex was cool for its time![This message was edited by Mike Brown on 12 October 2005 at 06:41 AM.]

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Oct 2005 7:35 am

Both the Tube and Transtube were probably the best guitar "effects processors" made in their time frame. If Peavey would have come out with a new model I would have bought it instead of the G-Major (and separate Rocktron rack preamp). I liked the "user friendly" programming that the Peavey units had.

I tried a Lexicon MPX110 and sent it back within 3 days. It is not a full feature "programmable" effects processor like the G-Major or the Lexicon MPX1 or the Peavey units. Even the Peavey Deltafex beats the MPX110 for effects.

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 6 Oct 2005 7:40 am

Randy, I like the MPX1. Give me a call.--Scott[This message was edited by Scott Denniston on 06 October 2005 at 09:01 AM.]

Randy Carson · Post by **Randy Carson** » 6 Oct 2005 8:07 am

Sorry Mike,
No offense what so ever. I have jumped on Peavey's bandwagon since the NV112.

The proccessor I had from peavey was probably just in the wrong hands.

Randy

Bob Martin · Post by **Bob Martin** » 7 Oct 2005 7:00 pm

Hi Randy, it's really hard to recommend a processor for an individual due to personal tastes. That being said here is my take on the subject.

Most of the reverb algorythms in the pro/tubefex are geared to sound like the reverb in an amplifier ie all pretty much natural sounding reverbs. Some love it and others don't.

Then you have other effect modules that try to create a perfect digital emulation of reverb.

That being said if and when you do find the perfect effects unit for you let me know and I'll be glad to do some programming on it for you. I can't guarantee that you will like them but I can get you some standard presets with reverb and delay, reverb and chorus, delay, reverb, and just some general standard steel guitar presets that most steel players like and use.

In the end you will have to learn the unit so that you can take my presets and tweak the levels and delay/reverb lengths because every room you play will require different lenght and mix levels.

If it were me I would go with either a quadraverb gt (old school but still very killer) or a digitech genesis III or similiar effects like pod xt and so on. I like the genesis over the others for one reason you can mix two different amp cabinets and create a whole new hybird amp like mixing a fender black face with a marshall stack for some killer unique amp sounds for recording.

Now for live playing I feel like all the amp modeling is worthless unless you are playing thru the PA and need to emulate an amp but how many folks do that a few I guess but not to many.

So for live playing it just depends on how critical you are on the quality of reverb. You can't get any better than lexicon, TC electronics, yamaha, and some others like those which are usually a little higher priced than the others.

So let me know when you find one if you want me to help program it for you.

Bob

Hal Higgins · Post by **Hal Higgins** » 12 Oct 2005 5:37 am

Randy......I've used everything from Profex' Profex II, Tubefex, etc., but I've found that, for me anyhow, the combination of an Evans Pre-amp and the Lexicon MPX 500 has given me the overall quality of sound that I looked for. The MPX 500 is such a versatile unit and easy to manipulate and change/adjust settings. Just my take on it.

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Be Blessed........HAL
'85 Emmons LeGrande D-10,(8 & 5) Hilton Vol. Pedal, BJS Birthstone bar, Rack w/Evans Pre-amp, Lexicon MPX500; (2)1501-4 BW's in custom built cabs by T.A. Gibson, & Sound Tech PL802 Digital Power Amp.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 12 Oct 2005 5:43 am

Randy, not a problem.

Larry Beck · Post by **Larry Beck** » 12 Oct 2005 1:38 pm

I just aquired a Boss GS-10. This unit is primarily a studio device, but the programming is a dream. The Unit can be programmed on your computer by clicking on a picture of the stomp box effect you want [OD, wah, delay, chorus, etc.] and then tweaking the knobs till you have what you want. There are 2 switchable amps per patch plus a solo.
It is the most intuative interface I have ever seen. here's a look at it: http://www.roland.com/products/en/GS-10/images/info_04L_L.jpg

ed packard · Post by **ed packard** » 12 Oct 2005 3:54 pm

www.dsound1.com/products/index_en.htm

I am having fun playing with the FAST TRACK recording interface (Zin =500K) and the EQ/Effects software found at the above link.

Chick Donner · Post by **Chick Donner** » 13 Oct 2005 10:13 am

Hard to beat a Pod XT Pro (rack mount).

Randy Carson · Post by **Randy Carson** » 16 Oct 2005 5:04 am

what about the mpx1? guys with it programmed right, it seems to be the choice of alot of our hero's
your thoughts?
rc

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 16 Oct 2005 6:48 am

I had two Lexicon MPX1's. One had a programming problem (could change parameters but it would not save the changes) and it was sent back. The other one was noisy and sent back.

But, the first one, with the programming problem, seemed to have some good built in programs.

The Lexicon's are used by many, but consider it was designed for primarily for P.A. and recording applications, not for instrument applications. Some of the other units such as the T.C. Electronic G-Major or the POD XT and XT Pro are designed for instrument applications. Makes a difference in what types of effects it has or that can be programmed. I have an Alesis "Microverb" - works great for voice or recording applications but crappy when it's used with my steel.

Randy Carson · Post by **Randy Carson** » 16 Oct 2005 4:39 pm

im finding out more all the time. its funny most steel players you talk to talk reverb, but i talked with some heavy hiters and a 3 time grammy award winning engineer and the trick with the sound on steel is delay. that is if you don't want to always have a spring reverb sound which is always nice.

but what you hear on the records is fatter sounding because of whiz delay programming.

thats why i guess the big boys behind the boards get the big bucks, we are looking for a great reverb and it's more the right delay mixed with a touch of the right plate reverb, again these are other's personal opinions, but they came from some respected pros.
maybe we could here feedback on that combo.
randy[This message was edited by Randy Carson on 16 October 2005 at 05:47 PM.]