delay unit

Johnny Cunnyngham · Post by **Johnny Cunnyngham** » 20 Jul 2005 5:10 pm

Hello! I'm the new kid on the block today, having Just received my ok from Bob. I have enjoyed your articles and impressed with your ability to share knowledge with other steel players. I want to add a delay unit and would appreciate comments on a unit that work well with a steel. I have heard that a standard guitar delay will not perform well on a steel. Thanks for your reply.

Joy Wofford · Post by **Joy Wofford** » 20 Jul 2005 5:30 pm

Hi Johnny, welcome! I don't know anything about a delay unit, sorry...but wanted to welcome you to the Forum. I'm sure somebody will be along soon that can help you with your question.

Joy

Jim Saunders · Post by **Jim Saunders** » 20 Jul 2005 5:40 pm

Johnny, Welcome. If you go to the Electronics section and do a Search (top of the page) and check out delay units, you will get a ton on info on the subject. I personally am using the Boss DD3 unit. Again, search for DD3 and you will find the settings used by top pros.
Good hunting.

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Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 20 Jul 2005 6:17 pm

Moving to Electronics

Ernest Cawby · Post by **Ernest Cawby** » 21 Jul 2005 4:12 am

Johnny, most players seem to use a DD3, I use one and it is the sound I have been looking for, I set it on 11:00 11:00 and the last knob on 12:00, seems most use this setting.
Hope this helps, also a lot of these for sale one buy and sell.

ernie

Keith Cordell · Post by **Keith Cordell** » 21 Jul 2005 4:12 am

I am using a Line6 DL4, has a ton of delay models, features and looping for about $225. Way better than anything else I've run across and I have been an effects freak since the late 70's.

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Eddie Thomas · Post by **Eddie Thomas** » 21 Jul 2005 5:05 am

I'm using a unit called MR. Echo, and really sounds good. Upon Steve Hinsons recomendation, I got one and tried it, No Regrets. Around a hundred bucks.

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 21 Jul 2005 7:11 am

The SIB "Mr. Echo" is the transistor version of their more expensive EchoDrive. Both are xcellent boxes. Same echo circuit, very analog sounding. Probably the best "analog" delay for the money, about $130. SIB stuff is great. I'd also highly recommend the Mr. Echo. The dry signal path is true analog, the delay is analog emulation. That way you never digitize your pure signal.

Brad

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 21 Jul 2005 8:41 am

Hello Johnny,
We have introduced the Peavey Duel Deltafex that is just beginning to ship to dealers in quantities. Check it out here; www.peavey.com

I invite you to call me toll free in North America at 1-877-732-8391, ext. 1180 if you have questions.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 21 Jul 2005 8:47 pm

Welcome.
The Boss DD3 will do a fine job.
The latest is a DD6. This one does some more tricks. More is not always better.

Check BOSS website for features.
In my experience, the BOSS units eat batteries with the gusto of a hound dog. I prefer to run the unit with a good battery and a 9v dc line.

Hope this helps.

Ron

Bill Yoder · Post by **Bill Yoder** » 25 Jul 2005 12:43 pm

Johnny,if you can find one of the old ad9 ibanez analogs,you can,t get much better.they,re a little pricey now,but they are great.i wouldn,t part with mine.

Dave Grafe · Post by **Dave Grafe** » 25 Jul 2005 11:25 pm

You can also get a used Roland SDE1000 or SDE2500 for under $150 at good music stores or on eBay.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 26 Jul 2005 1:39 am

Hey Johnny, welcome aboard.

I don't know why anyone would tell you that a Guitar delay pedal would not work for Steel..

They are both Guitars..are they not ?

For a long period of time I had been using an Ibanez stomp box DE7. Bought it for $25 in a Pawn shop..It is a fine unit with lots of flexibilty and control.

The past year I have been using a Peavey Profex, one of the originals. Bought this at Atomic Music in DC for $60..the primary reason I switched over to the rack mount unit was that I was getting tired of changing the battery in the Ibanez stomp box DE7 pedal and I did not want to add a WALLWART to the mix for this pedal...

The PROFEX also has the saving grace Headphones out jack with separate volume control...thats worth the $60 I paid all by itself....

Good luck and have fun..
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George Kimery · Post by **George Kimery** » 26 Jul 2005 4:02 am

Bobbe Seymour told me that he asked Wanda Vick, when she was heading to a recording session, why she was taking the DD-3 instead of some expensive rack gear that she had. She said, it sounds better! Bobbe agreed, so that is a pretty solid vote for a DD-3. I had one before my Lexicon rack unit and I liked it just fine. Get the AC adapter unless your family owns a battery factory.

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 26 Jul 2005 4:08 am

The reason that some guitar effects have trouble with steel guitars is that the pickup output from steels is a lot more powerful than from even a humbucking-equipped six-string. Some effects can handle it, some effects overload at their first input stage, producing that fascinating crackly tortured-transistor distortion - not too musical. If a DD-3 works, use it. If you're stuck on using a particular guitar effect with steel that freaks that way, you can attenuate the steel signal with another box - those little 6 or 7 band EQs work well for this.

Richard E. Lee · Post by **Richard E. Lee** » 30 Jul 2005 5:40 pm

I'm interested in Brad Sarno's choice of pedals.. Is there a dealer on the EastCoast you'd recommend? I have never heard of these units..but if Brad says they are good.. that's good enough for me.. Where can I get one? thanks

Jon Jaffe · Post by **Jon Jaffe** » 30 Jul 2005 7:59 pm

Class A Amps
$99 + Shipping

Eddie Thomas · Post by **Eddie Thomas** » 30 Jul 2005 10:32 pm

Richard, you can get a Mr. Echo at Fat Sound, Cary, NC. 919-467-1003, for $110. plus shipping. It is a great little unit.

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 30 Jul 2005 11:19 pm

Two of my favorites:

1. The discontinued Ibanez "Sound Tank" EM-5 Echomachine. It's a digital delay stompbox that sounds more like an analog - warm, smooth, and "big" sounding. Getting harder to find - I'm going to buy a backup.

2. The H&K Replex. This is a tube unit that is the closest thing to tape deal (without tape) I've ever found. Even has a vintage knob to introduce wow, flutter and tape hiss into the signal like an Echoplex that needs service!. Includes a great tube signal boost and a passable reverb section (unfirtunately can't be used with the delay section). Not cheap, but my overall favorite.

Jerry Erickson · Post by **Jerry Erickson** » 31 Jul 2005 5:49 am

I would also hook up the delay pedal after the volume pedal because I rarely have the volume pedal wide open,thereby attenuating the signal to the delay pedal. YMMV