Fender Tube Reverb units

Harry Hess · Post by **Harry Hess** » 17 Mar 2001 7:27 pm

Anybody have any experience playing pedal steel through one of those Fender tube reverb units?

The one with the Dwell, Mix and Tone controls.

Can they handle the increased output of a PSG pickup with breaking up?

Can you get a "clean as a whistle" sound with one?

Can you plug directly from your PSG into one, and then go to your volume pedal?

I'm not into any distortion, or break-up or fuzz on a PSG. Just clean traditional sound.

Will this unit work for me?

Your experiences and/or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Regards,
Harry Hess

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 17 Mar 2001 7:58 pm

HH
Iwould put it after the vol ped...

otherwise ... all of the above... a great vintage sound

Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 17 Mar 2001 8:29 pm

Dave-I second that! I used to own one....al

Tele · Post by **Tele** » 18 Mar 2001 12:32 am

Harry,

I have a reissue Tube Reverb, Go ahead buy one it's great but yes, put it after the volume pedal. I'd use a tube with lower gain like the 5751 but I have no problems with breaking up. However if I listen very carefully to Jimmy Days tone on the 1st album I think his steel has a slight amount of break up. This is a - maybe THE - classic sound for me.

my 2cents

Andy

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Harry Hess · Post by **Harry Hess** » 18 Mar 2001 5:20 am

OK... after the volume pedal.

But what about if I were to use my older Mesa Boogie Stereo Preamp?

Fender Reverb first, or would it be just as good in the FX loop of the Boogie?

By being in the FX loop, I could run both of the outputs from my Goodrich pedal into both of the Boogie's Stereo inputs.

Too bad it won't work before the volume pedal. PSG too hot for it that way?

By the way, I assume you guy's would feel that the reverb from the Fender re-issue would beat that of the Boogie, right?

Thanks guys.

Regards,
HH

Chris DeBarge · Post by **Chris DeBarge** » 18 Mar 2001 8:54 am

Harry, in your case I would definately put it in the effects loop. That way you get great Fender reverb without the surfy tone. I'm assuming you don't want your steel to sound like Dick Dale!

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 18 Mar 2001 10:03 am

HH
It's not for reasons of overdrive I say put it after the pedal- It's for the reason of the concept of the effect- reverbs are supposed to linger after the note played.. if you cut the note and the reverb off with the volume pedal it sounds "unnatural" (well more unnatural than a spring reverb usually does

)

IMO reverbs, delays, should be after the VP.

Brandin · Post by **Brandin** » 18 Mar 2001 10:11 am

Harry, Chris is right. The harder you play the more verb you get when you run straight into the amp. This is great for that surf sound, but I'm sure that's not what you want.
I run mine thru my FX loop, and that keeps it even.

Harry Hess · Post by **Harry Hess** » 18 Mar 2001 7:47 pm

Well, I'm planning on buying from my regular PSG & supply dealer, Bruce Heffner (Wally's Sales-Hamburg,PA) a Stewert Reference amp and a Steelers Rack to accomodate the Stewert, my Lexicon, my Korg DTR-1, etc.

I was planning to, and may still, buy the new Evans Stereo Preamp from Bruce as well.

But then I started thinking about not wanting to be stuck with digital reverb. (I still haven't figured out how to use the Lexicon) And also, since I'm not rich, maybe I ought to use the Boogie that I have in my studio now and not scrape to get the Evans. I can't buy this stuff till I sell my MG anyway.

Later on I could find another Boogie for my studio.

But for now, I'll have to crawl behing my studio racks to exmine the FX loop on the Boogie. I assume if it has stereo FX ins & outs... there'll be one side that will make sure a mono FX like the Fender Reverb would be in both channels. Or maybe, I'll just read the manuel, duh.

In any event, do you guys think I'd even need the Fender Reverb?

Ya think the Boogie reverb would be lush enough out on a gig?

TELE, what would the 5751 be replacing?

JWA, how hard would it be to find a 6K6?

Who makes it?

Also, you say "replace the "C10" capacitor with an equivilent value silver mica one", how hard is that to find?

I'm not to technical or knowledgeable when it comes to amps/electronics.

DVA, I see what you mean, so the other guys are correct in suggesting the FX loop anyway.

When this rig is complete, the rack will have the louder Stewert Reference amp, the Lexicon for delay only, the Korg tuner, and either the Evans or my Boogie Stereo Preamp. And quite possibly the Fender Reverb unit. All of this would run into my two white Webb cabs with JBL K-130-4's in 'em. Pretty cool rig, huh?

And I'm leaning toward the inclusion of all the tubes to warm up the sound. Those Lexicons and their like can make your tone pretty bland if you're not careful. Maybe I ought to dump that thing, but cool delay with a PSG can be so nice.

Regards,
Harry Hess

Tele · Post by **Tele** » 19 Mar 2001 3:30 pm

Harry, I replaced the 7025 with the 5751...
6K6 are also available on ebay but I'd prefer buying from a Forum member...and he even got RCAs COOL !

Andy

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Harry Hess · Post by **Harry Hess** » 19 Mar 2001 5:02 pm

MrHeidman,

I don't have the reverb unit yet.

Any chance you'd tuck away a couple of those with my name on 'em?

Regards,
HH