...looking for the word for
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Al Moss
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...looking for the word for
A while back I was at a jam and between tunes, as guys will do, we were gabbin. Someone at the jam, can't remember who, mentioned a musical term that was the word for "the connection/relationaship of a song's lyric and it's melody", (arrangement, tone, and feel may have been a part of it too). Of course, I immediately made note of such a great word, and, of course, by the time I got home, had forgotten the actual word but remembered the context. Anybody have a clue to the identity of this word, and, if so, what the heck is it?
...*actual dictionary confirmation would be a plus.
...*actual dictionary confirmation would be a plus.
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Al
As I remember , from years back !
There were / are notations on sheet
music that clue you in on what the
composer wanted , or how you were
to play a song . Don't hold me to this !
but what I remember is .
" Expressivo " ( with expression )
"Andante " ( slowly )
" Portamento " ( carry tone from on note to the next )
also there was " Tact " it may be spelled different , but
meaning ( with feeling )
There are others but thats all I remember .
Maybe this is the area you are looking for .
Hick
As I remember , from years back !
There were / are notations on sheet
music that clue you in on what the
composer wanted , or how you were
to play a song . Don't hold me to this !
but what I remember is .
" Expressivo " ( with expression )
"Andante " ( slowly )
" Portamento " ( carry tone from on note to the next )
also there was " Tact " it may be spelled different , but
meaning ( with feeling )
There are others but thats all I remember .
Maybe this is the area you are looking for .
Hick
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As usual, Mr. Wever is correct.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>pros·o·dy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prs-d)
n. pl. pros·o·dies
The study of the metrical structure of verse.
A particular system of versification.
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[Middle English prosodie, from Latin prosdia, accent, from Greek prosidi, song sung to music, accent : pros-, pros- + id, song; see ode.]
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pro·sodic (pr-sdk) adj.
pro·sodi·cal·ly adv.
proso·dist n.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
prosody
n 1: the patterns of stress and intonation in a language [syn: inflection] 2: (prosody) a system of versification [syn: poetic rhythm, rhythmic pattern] 3: the study of poetic meter and the art of versification [syn: metrics]
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>pros·o·dy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prs-d)
n. pl. pros·o·dies
The study of the metrical structure of verse.
A particular system of versification.
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[Middle English prosodie, from Latin prosdia, accent, from Greek prosidi, song sung to music, accent : pros-, pros- + id, song; see ode.]
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pro·sodic (pr-sdk) adj.
pro·sodi·cal·ly adv.
proso·dist n.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
prosody
n 1: the patterns of stress and intonation in a language [syn: inflection] 2: (prosody) a system of versification [syn: poetic rhythm, rhythmic pattern] 3: the study of poetic meter and the art of versification [syn: metrics]
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Do you think that the application of the word "prosody" may be used to suggest a "sum of the parts" /"total work of art" that synthesizes the combimation of words, music, feel, tempo, and all of the other intangibles of a particular song's performance ? For example, the way that Eddy Arnold's version of "You Don't Know Me" is different from the Ray Charles version. i.e., Could you say that the "prosody" of the Arnold is different than the Charles?<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Al Moss on 14 August 2006 at 12:04 PM.]</p></FONT>
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The thread about the 'word is kind of a last ditch effort to find the lost 'word from that jam session. Since that session, we've been in a couple of interview situations in which I've tried to explain to the interviewer what it is that piques my interest in country music and invariably it comes around to trying to tie together the whole sound of the performance, --the lyric may be sappy or simple or melodramatic--but the delivery is pure magic. So somewhere in describing that combo is the "lost" word. Maybe it was "prosody" and I'd be happy to adopt its usage so long as it is easily accepted and understood. "Prosody" if that's the "word" may be one of those terms that requires a definition each time it's slipped into a conversation anyway.
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"Prosody" ?
For County music that would be
MaMa - Trains - Prison -
getting drunk - pick up trucks
shooting a man in Reno . :re D.A.C. & Cash
Words that most of us Steelers know are
Jack hammer - Dump truck - pipe wrench
tool box - Budwiser - & so on -
Of course ! I'm just kidding Al ! there are some
sharp guy & Gals here on the forum ! but
"Prosody" is way over my head - I'm like Gene
if I can get to CODA ! I'm a happy camper
Hick
PS I forgot to mention - Fire Truck
For County music that would be
MaMa - Trains - Prison -
getting drunk - pick up trucks
shooting a man in Reno . :re D.A.C. & Cash
Words that most of us Steelers know are
Jack hammer - Dump truck - pipe wrench
tool box - Budwiser - & so on -

Of course ! I'm just kidding Al ! there are some
sharp guy & Gals here on the forum ! but
"Prosody" is way over my head - I'm like Gene
if I can get to CODA ! I'm a happy camper
Hick
PS I forgot to mention - Fire Truck

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Don't forget to include .45 & .357 Mag. in that list! As for the word, I think it's called: “Short~Term Memory Loss”! 
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Hey ! ?Big John?
I was trying to figure how your caliber suggestion
would fit into country music !
Maybe AL has something here !!!
The only song I
could come up with is Marty Robins " Shortly "
that referred to a caliber . But if you think about it
BLUES will almost always be more detailed in what
caliber or what make a pickup truck is ! - ford , Chevy -
than will Country ! In BLUES the 44 caliber seem to be
the most popular , so you may be off by .001 on the .45 !
Maybe this "prosody" stuff is the relation to the type
of music your doing or wrighting .
This may also be why Country Rock is a
*crock by missing the correct "Prosoty ".
*re: Smiley
Hick
I was trying to figure how your caliber suggestion
would fit into country music !
Maybe AL has something here !!!
The only song I
could come up with is Marty Robins " Shortly "
that referred to a caliber . But if you think about it
BLUES will almost always be more detailed in what
caliber or what make a pickup truck is ! - ford , Chevy -
than will Country ! In BLUES the 44 caliber seem to be
the most popular , so you may be off by .001 on the .45 !
Maybe this "prosody" stuff is the relation to the type
of music your doing or wrighting .
This may also be why Country Rock is a
*crock by missing the correct "Prosoty ".
*re: SmileyHick