Anyone onThis Forum a Member of Local 802 NYC

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 28 Jul 2006 8:44 am

Anyone?? I would like to know if at all possible.
Thank You.

Steve Alcott · Post by **Steve Alcott** » 28 Jul 2006 10:27 am

Me

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 28 Jul 2006 11:51 am

Hi Steve
I was a member since 1950 and dropped out in 75. I was asked to do a special on PBS and I was informed that I would have to be re-instated at the tune of $1.200.00 ever hear of that jazz?? [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 28 July 2006 at 12:57 PM.]

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 28 Jul 2006 12:11 pm

There's the AFM, supporting the working musician as always....

RR

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 28 Jul 2006 12:25 pm

Yes and how about the AGVA if your on camera? American Guild Of Variety Artists as a featured act.

Bummer.

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 28 Jul 2006 1:03 pm

Sorry to hear that, Jody. What's with these guys?

I moving this to Music since it's a non-Event.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 28 Jul 2006 1:16 pm

They couldn't pay me enough Lipton's tea to pay $1,200.00 to be reinstated. Sure "Seems Like Old Times" Though. What else is new.

Mike Shefrin · Post by **Mike Shefrin** » 28 Jul 2006 7:44 pm

I was a local 802 member back in 1978.
I quit because I was paying more in union dues than the bread I'd be making from the measly GB gigs that I had to hustle my butt off to get.
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John De Maille · Post by **John De Maille** » 28 Jul 2006 7:57 pm

I was member from 1972 to 1976. Got tired of all the racketeering going on. Wasn't worth the dues I paid. The union "reps" always looking for a handout !!!! I made more money being on my own.

Robert Leaman · Post by **Robert Leaman** » 30 Jul 2006 7:45 am

I was a AFM member from 1952 until 1992. Since I chose not to play until late 1998, my dues were still collected. In 1998, I asked about life membership and was told that I did not deserve life membership. Subsequently, I resigned as a member in good standing and I have an AFM letter that states that. In 2005, I called and sent emails to the AFM Local that has jurisdiction for my area. None of the calls nor any emails were answered. This is typical AFM behavior since the AFM never, at any time, provided me with any benefit nor did the AFM ever provide me with any support. In my opinion, the AFM can kiss my butt in town center square and I'll give them 2 hours to draw a crowd.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 30 Jul 2006 5:51 pm

I was commited to do a PBS special on the Life and Times of Arthur Godfrey. The theme of the show would have been the title,
"Seems Like Old Times" but since I dropped out of AFM 802 in 72, the union wants me to pay $1.200.00 to be reinstated.In addition If I were to perform as an act as well as a member of the orchestra that would be doing the sound track, I was informed that I would have to join AGVA American Guild Of Variety
Artists. Since I was the winner of the Godfrey Talent scout show in 1955, I was asked to audition as well. I told the gal I spoke with, Why? you have my cd is that not enough and she replied..Sir, that was many years ago and we dont know how you play today. I asked what her profession was and she replied, I was head of marketing for Home Depot stores in eastern division.

End of story. PS. I really wanted to see the McGuire Sisters Chris, Dorothy, and Phyliss

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Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 31 Jul 2006 7:45 am

...she replied, I was head of marketing for Home Depot stores in eastern division.

So Jody,I guess this qualifies you to go to a Home Depot in the East,& apply for a job in "head marketing",since you're a musician,huh? DUUUHH!! She should think about "marketing her head" somewhere else!!

I don't know about musician's unions in any other towns,but the NashVILE local is totally worthless for club or road musicians. The only ones that they care about is the studio,TV,or symphony musicians! Besides,Tn. is a "right to work" state. They can't stop you from working!

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Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 31 Jul 2006 8:41 am

Membership in the musicians union isn't a complete loss. I was once called for one of jobs at a state mental institution, and it paid my dues for another year.

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Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 31 Jul 2006 10:36 am

This was in 7/28/06's "Dilbert"

The boss says,"Alice,interview the guy in our conference room,& see what he can do for us."

Alice,interviewing him,says,"I'm going to bonk your head on the table. If it sounds empty,you'll work in marketing."

She returns,& the boss asks,"How did it go?"

Alice replies,"I bonked too hard. We just got a new sales guy."

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Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 31 Jul 2006 10:43 am

The reinstatement fee here in the Atlanta local is less than $50. $1200 seems totally wrong for a reinstatement.

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 31 Jul 2006 11:14 am

Hey Bill,
Don't forget,up there,you're dealing w/ 802,the "BIG BOYS"!!

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Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 31 Jul 2006 11:23 am

This is from their website.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Re-entry Fees

For a musician who has resigned from Local 802 in good standing (that is, whose Membership and Work Dues were paid up to the date of resignation) and who wishes to re-enter Local 802, a Re-entry Fee of $25 is required, plus a prorated quarterly Membership Dues payment.

For a musician whose membership in Local 802 lapsed not in good standing and who wishes to re-enter Local 802 within four years of the date of lapse, there is a Re-entry Fee of $35, plus a Clearance Fee of up to two quarters' Membership Dues, plus a prorated quarterly Membership Dues payment. If the period of time exceeds four years, the musician is considered a new member and is required to remit a "new members" Initiation Fee of $100.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.local802afm.org/frames/fs_about.htm

Seems to be spelled out fairly clear to me.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 31 Jul 2006 11:24 am

I'm the vice-president of local 820 here in Canada. This does not sound right. Unless there are outstanding fines present, all you should have to do is get reinstated by paying the annual fee of the local, plus maybe a few other small fees. Since it's a TV gig, the paycheck should easily allow for the payment of the AFM fees. There's something wrong with that quote you were given.

Call local 802 in New York and ask about it. There's no way it will cost you $1,200 to become a member again. Also, if this is a show that is going to be aired again in the future, you may be entitled to special payments. This means that you will be paid for each additional future airing under the AFM's Special Payments Fund. This may or may not apply here, but it's something you should ask about if you proceed.

I'm not sure about the AFM in the USA, but Canada's AFM is also collecting neighbouring rights on behalf of its members. If you are listed as a musician on any recordings that have received airplay, there's probably money waiting there for you. The AFM has people monitoring radio and television for this information. They're surprisingly dilligent.

The AFM can be a pain in the butt at times, but there's all kinds of stuff there if you take the time to check it out.[This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 31 July 2006 at 12:26 PM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 31 Jul 2006 12:00 pm

Thank all of you. I may have been informed from unreliable source to say the least.

Thanks. I will contact those in command and not clerks.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 31 Jul 2006 1:23 pm

Mike W. Thank you I will check out the information you posted.

Karen Lee Steenwijk · Post by **Karen Lee Steenwijk** » 1 Aug 2006 1:43 am

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 1 Aug 2006 4:07 am

I have enough information from the various posts by our Forum members and will follow up today. Thank you.

Janice Dear, will you kindly close this thread.