Music-Reproducing Machines

Musical topics not directly related to steel guitar

Moderator: Dave Mudgett

User avatar
Bobby Lee
Site Admin
Posts: 14863
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Cloverdale, California, USA
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Music-Reproducing Machines

Post by Bobby Lee »

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Sweeping across the country with the speed of a transient fashion in slang or Panama hats, political war cries or popular novels, comes now the mechanical device to sing for us a song or play for us a piano, in substitute for human skill, intelligence, and soul. Only by harking back to the day of the roller skate or the bicycle craze, when sports of admitted utility ran to extravagance and virtual madness, can we find a parallel to the way in which these ingenious instruments have invaded every community in the land.

I foresee a marked deterioration in American music and musical taste, an interruption in the musical development of the country, and a host of other injuries to music in its artistic manifestations, by virtue -- or rather by vice -- of the multiplication of the various music-reproducing machines. <p align="right">John Philip Sousa, 1906</p></SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
User avatar
Bobby Lee
Site Admin
Posts: 14863
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Cloverdale, California, USA
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Bobby Lee »

Tom Olson
Posts: 1605
Joined: 21 Feb 2000 1:01 am
Location: Spokane, WA
State/Province: Washington
Country: United States

Post by Tom Olson »

I haven't read the entire essay, but it sounds really interesting. From a quick glance, it appears that Sousa's real bone to pick was the affect of the new contraptions on copyright royalties.

To whit:
<SMALL>And now a word on a detail of personal interest which has a right to be heard because it voices a claim for fair play, far-reaching in its effects beyond the personal profit of one or many individuals. I venture to say that it will come as an entire surprise to almost every reader to learn that the composers of the music now produced so widely by the mechanical players of every sort draw no profit from it whatever</SMALL>
Ray Minich
Posts: 6431
Joined: 22 Jul 2003 12:01 am
Location: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Ray Minich »

Those with a "vested interest in the status quo" have the most reason to dislike new technology that has the potential to disrupt their paradigm.

In other words, we all dislike technology that may put us out of work.
User avatar
Jon Light (deceased)
Posts: 14336
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Saugerties, NY
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Jon Light (deceased) »

I think congress should ban or heavily tax the Victrola.
Donny Hinson
Posts: 21798
Joined: 16 Feb 1999 1:01 am
Location: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Donny Hinson »

Painters sure took it on the chin when photography was invented, but you never heard them whining about it! Image

Ca't you hear someone at the Saturday Evening Post declaring..."We don't need that Rockwell fella now, we got cameras!"
User avatar
Leslie Ehrlich
Posts: 1295
Joined: 21 Nov 2002 1:01 am
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Leslie Ehrlich »

I believe that before the widespread acceptance and use of recorded music, it was much more possible to make a living as a musician.
User avatar
Ken Lang
Posts: 4708
Joined: 8 Jul 1999 12:01 am
Location: Simi Valley, Ca
State/Province: California
Country: United States

Post by Ken Lang »

It seems to me, at least here in America, in the 1800's the musicians were pretty much in the catagory of actors. Low on the pole and not worth much of anything.

With the advent of film and recording these folks were available to the mass of people. Thus the star was born.
User avatar
Eric West
Posts: 5747
Joined: 25 Apr 2002 12:01 am
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Eric West »

Donny.

Rockwell traced photographs he set up for his most famous works. I believe all of the SEP Covers were traced works.


Image

EJL<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Eric West on 11 April 2005 at 08:28 PM.]</p></FONT>
Jim Phelps
Posts: 3421
Joined: 6 Sep 2002 12:01 am
Location: Mexico City, Mexico
State/Province: -
Country: United States

Post by Jim Phelps »

Well, he traced a lot better than I can. Image<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 17 April 2005 at 06:04 PM.]</p></FONT>