CMT's 40 Greatest Men of Country Music

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 17 Nov 2003 8:18 am

Hmm. The Eagles made the list (at #34), but Ray Price didn't.

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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande

Ray Jenkins · Post by **Ray Jenkins** » 17 Nov 2003 8:51 am

Lee,you have to remember CMT means "Corporate Money Television"
Ray

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David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 17 Nov 2003 9:47 am

The Eagles are one of my favorite all time groups. But they ain't country, and don't belong on the CMT list. On the other hand, the Eagles were pointedly left out of Rolling Stone magazine's top 100 rock album list one year (somehow the list is completely different every time they do it). So go figure. These lists should be taken the way people take red lights in Boston. They are just rough temporary suggestions. Nobody actually pays any attention to them.[This message was edited by David Doggett on 17 November 2003 at 09:48 AM.]

Andy Greatrix · Post by **Andy Greatrix** » 17 Nov 2003 12:16 pm

You have to treat CMT with
the disrespect it deserves and move on.
They don't need you and you sure don't need them.

Ken Lang · Post by **Ken Lang** » 17 Nov 2003 8:20 pm

I wonder.

Have we become our parents?

At what year should we cut it off?

The real country music?

Where is the line demarking what is real country and what is not.

1962?

1973?

1980?

Country music changes.

And we can not.

WE know what it is, and THEY do not.

I feel like my father screeching his nails against the blackboard because Benny Goodman is obsolete and Bill Haley is not.

Each generation makes it's own. Each generation clings to it's own.

Pucker up, gentleman. Suck it in. Be glad we had our time. Enjoy the memories we've all had. I do for sure. But............

It's over.

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 17 Nov 2003 9:57 pm

[This message was edited by Earnest Bovine on 17 November 2003 at 10:36 PM.]

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 18 Nov 2003 5:57 am

But, Ken! The Eagles??? I've been playing their music since the early 70's and love them dearly; but, they are not country.

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Down On The Rio Grande

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 18 Nov 2003 10:19 am

Earnest, your post was even shorter than usual.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 18 Nov 2003 10:28 am

They've always had that country sound to me.

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 18 Nov 2003 12:34 pm

The best way to define (IMO) country music is to say what it isn't.

And the Eagles "izunt"

It reminds me of a pastor one time when he said, "the greatest institution and the highest court in the land, can NOT define pornography, yet EVERY body knows what it is".

Country music did change over many years as cars do. But like wagons which have four wheels that doth NOT make them cars, there is country music and there is music that is called country which izunt country. The Eagles fall into that category to me; as does soooooo many who have been called "country".

Examples are; all those who tried unsucessfully to sound like country such as Arthur Godfrey, Frankie Lane, The Lawrence Welk show when they pitifully tried to do a "country" show, (excluding Buddy Merrill), Andy Williams, Guy Mitchel (who ruined Marty Robbins' "Singing the Blues") Guy Lombardo's orchestra trying to do "country", Tex Ritter (he was a cowboy and sang cowboy, NOT country); John Denver, The Gatlin Bros, the Oakridge Quartet, the Statler Bros, Alabama; along with those who beller like a pregnant sow givun birth; like Garth Brooks, Shania Twain, Martina McBride, Faith Hill, etc, etc. Fact is when they beller "aint" no way it's country, IMO.

(Connie Smith does not beller. She sings from her soul! Her heart is in each note. Not just bellering to suit an audience that wouldn't know "country" from and eskimo igloo.

) Same goes for Ray Price and other truly Country singers.

Note: most of the above WERE and ARE indeed incredible stars in their own right. But they aint "Country". And they never will be in the hearts and minds of most of who KNOW what country is NOT.

No truer words were ever spoken concerning music than, "Play Me a Country Song". The writer and singer of that hit KNEW what country was not.

May our Lord bless those who are trying to continue "country's" legacy; which is fast becoming an impossible feat.

carl