What a Great Steel Guitar Intro is For

Larry Miller · Post by **Larry Miller** » 26 Oct 2001 5:43 am

A great steel guitar intro is used in a song so the DJ can talk over it all the way until the singer starts singing!!!!!! D@m!##!!!!

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 26 Oct 2001 6:02 am

Larry: Don't forget endings !! Those Boys are notorious for talking over them as well.
When Lord Twitty had Lost In The Feeling on the charts with John playing out the song they did that a lot. One day a DJ just cut the whole ending off and then got a very caustic phone call from me !! He played it all the way a few minutes later after I explained to him the importance of Steel Guitar to Sir Conway's songs. He agreed !!

Regards, Paul

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 26 Oct 2001 7:19 am

A great steel guitar intro is used in a song so the DJ can talk over it all the way until the singer starts singing

That is probably why there are no great intro's on any songs today!

Brandon Roper · Post by **Brandon Roper** » 26 Oct 2001 1:10 pm

Hey,
In addition, I'd kinda like to not have to "dig" through some OVERexadurated crusty vocals or some goofy drum machine to strain to hear a barely audible steel lick even when the DJ is not talking. Ya Know?

Derek Duplessie · Post by **Derek Duplessie** » 26 Oct 2001 3:25 pm

I'm NOT a faith hill fan but her first
hit "Wild One" had some incredible steel by
Paul. When it comes on the d.j. ALWAYS talks
over it. The only good part in the only good
faith hill song.(sorry faith hill fans)
-Derek

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 26 Oct 2001 4:02 pm

Jeez! Come on guys!!! Didn't anyone tell you that, many years ago, all D.J's were fired...and replaced with mindless "commercial-readers"? (Except for a very few, like Eddie Stubbs.)

To be quite truthful, they didn't have to tell me...I noticed it myself.

randy · Post by **randy** » 30 Oct 2001 12:59 pm

I think it's on "Just like Dad"(maybe not the right title), by George Strait, Buddy does a real heart-breaking outro that almost always gets cut off. I'm not kidding when I say I could kill those #$%^%*&'s when they do that. Usually I turn the radio off so hard I almost break the knob.

randy

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 30 Oct 2001 1:44 pm

Randy: "So Much Like My Dad." First time I heard it, I called BE and told him how much I liked his work on that song/album. That was the first time I had called him but I had
to tell him, it was just that good. I've been writing and bragging on Buddy for over forty years and he surely is worthy of all the praise I or others may afford him. A Genuine Legend and he carries it so well !!

Best Regards, Paul

randy · Post by **randy** » 31 Oct 2001 11:38 am

Thanks Paul. You can tell I sometimes fail to listen to the words. It's hard to do when you're trying to hear every nuance that Buddy has to offer...and George is about my favorite singer, (when Buddy's playin' with him). Take one more listen to the turn on 'King of Broken Hearts".

randy

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 31 Oct 2001 2:30 pm

Last night by accident I stumbled across the movie "Pure Country", starring George Strait, on TV. I'd never seen it before. The title itself sets the movie up for some ironic moments, but one thing I noticed.
The tune randy mentioned, "King of Broken Hearts" was present during one of the "tender moments" of the movie. BE's magnificent steel ride was mostly obscured by heavy strings, although still barely audible to an E fan. I was a bit disappointed.
Of course, at that point in the movie, the sap was running pretty good

It still underlines the public's obsession with vocalists.
Sunday night I did an instrumental trio gig. When one customer asked "Do you not have a vocalist?" the entire band just bust out laughing.
-John

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 31 Oct 2001 5:53 pm

Derek, I agree that song was her first hit. Or the one that helped launch her career. The D.J's love talking for some reason when they start a record. I don't think they pick any one instrument. Other than guys like Eddie Stubbs, who actually gives credit to the player who is featured on the intro or turn-around, D.J.s have been giving the stations' call-letters, time and temp, or their OWN name on top of intros at least as far back as the 1960s. Radio has always considered the side-man as a red-headed step-child. Incidentally, again this year the CMA has not deemed the "Musician of the Year" award worthy of being presented on-air!
Theresa

Derek Duplessie · Post by **Derek Duplessie** » 31 Oct 2001 9:52 pm

Theresa,thats REDICULOUS(spelling?)If it
wasn't for the musicians none of these barbie
dolls/"macho" cowboys would be able to make
records or perform at all!!
-Derek

Larry Miller · Post by **Larry Miller** » 1 Nov 2001 3:58 am

I believe it's been established that Faith can sing. If you don't believe me, check out the great job she does on the "TAMMY REMEMBERED" album.

Derek Duplessie · Post by **Derek Duplessie** » 1 Nov 2001 9:47 pm

Larry,Faith has a great voice but look at
someone like Kim Richey who has a better voice and she writes and plays!!
-Derek

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 2 Nov 2001 2:58 am

One of the local Charlotte area Country radio guys, he know's who he is, could give a flip about Country songs or Country music. I am somewhat certain that he talks over intro's and endings so that he can maintain his "legend in is own mind " status. During the song where there is actually singing going on I think he is away from the console checking his hair-do, like he does at all of the off-site events that he praticipates in.

Steel Guitar, are you nuts ?, that would make his show sound like a Country show and that wouldn't look good on his resume'

Still Pickin'
TP[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 02 November 2001 at 02:59 AM.]

Larry Miller · Post by **Larry Miller** » 2 Nov 2001 3:52 am

Derek, I agree with you. What we are talking about then, is Programming! There is room for Faith and Kim, but the "programmers" won't let it happen!

Derek Duplessie · Post by **Derek Duplessie** » 2 Nov 2001 8:11 am

Amen!!!
-Derek

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 2 Nov 2001 5:04 pm

B,
I agree with the first part of your statement but honestly disagree with the latter part! Thanks, Theresa

Ron Page · Post by **Ron Page** » 5 Nov 2001 2:12 pm

I was getting tired of this thread until Bill claimed to be in agreement with T. Once I read Bill's review of "Nashberg", it made T's reply predictable. Glad you two realized that you don't really agree.

There's a thread about the Shuffle and there've been others about "standards". I can't help but wonder what standards are being created these days.

I don't have to think back very far -- early 90's -- to recall being excited by country music. I could list 'em, but you know the "class of '89". Man, what happended? Did my old foggie switch kick in (at 45) only to make be eternally long for the "good old days"?

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HagFan

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 5 Nov 2001 2:56 pm

Ron,
B, agreed with some of what I said. I may be predictable, but I can say the same about you guys too! Music is being recorded everyday like it or not! Go Steel! Theresa

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 9 Nov 2001 5:51 pm

Ron...today's "standards"? Well, I'm certain that "Achey-Breaky-Heart", and "Friends In Low Places" will be the two top "Future Classics"...done in the '90s, which will still be remembered in 25 years.

Everything else will rank somewhere between Demetris Tapp and Helen Shapiro.

Bob Hayes · Post by **Bob Hayes** » 9 Nov 2001 6:23 pm

The DJ's or switch pushers do the same in all types of music ..except I think classical..but I still could be wrong..But the talk about "the good old days" has been going on a long time. Take for instance the kick off to the country classic by Faron Young..written by Willy. I practiced and practiced..Then doug out the original.(I forgot if it was tape or CD..It might of been even wire..GUESS WHAT!!! NOT EVEN A GUITAR!!! let alone a steel. It's basicly all tinkle tinkle keyboard of some type. Dig out some of your old or ancient records. tapes or whatever..and give a listen. You will be suprised on MANY early recordings(late 50's/early 60's) that there was VERY LTTLE instumental guitar or steel.key board and stings or fiddle is more prevelent. In reallity..there's more steel in todays music. The 70's,part od the 80's and early 90's were good for steel...If you listened to the right artist.. Even listen to some of The Hag's recordings...you'll be suprized.
Let me know IF I'm Wrong!!!
Grouchyvet