7th chords

Jim Whitaker · Post by **Jim Whitaker** » 3 Dec 2002 8:32 pm

Could someone please post the most used 7th positions you use going to a 4 chord or back to the 1 chord.
Thanks in advance
Jim

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Dave Birkett · Post by **Dave Birkett** » 3 Dec 2002 9:38 pm

Here's one that Lloyd Green frequently uses. It's going from E7 to A.
<pre>2____5~~~~5LL__________________________
3______________________________________
4______________________5________________
5____5~~~~~~~__5~~~~~~~~________________
6____5B~~~~~~__5B~~5~~~~________________</pre>[This message was edited by Dave Birkett on 03 December 2002 at 09:40 PM.]

Tony Dingus · Post by **Tony Dingus** » 4 Dec 2002 9:33 am

Here's a couple I heard Steve Palousek use.
The first string raise F# to G#.

1--8R~~10R~~10---
2----------------
3--8~~~10~~~10B-- (A7)
4----------------
5--8~~~10~~~10A--

3--8~~8B---11---
4--8~~8L-------- (C7)
5----------11---

Tony

Jim Whitaker · Post by **Jim Whitaker** » 4 Dec 2002 4:25 pm

These are great fellow & keep them coming (BUT) I am looking for for positions on the neck where the seventh chords are located. Say if I use the key of C I know where a couple are but I am looking for some more.

Jim

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JIM
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Dave Birkett · Post by **Dave Birkett** » 4 Dec 2002 5:52 pm

Jim, the three most-common positions would be at the chord, pedals up, using the 9th string; pedals down, two frets below the chord lowering the 4th and 8th strings; and pedals up, three frets above the chord raising the 4th and 8th strings. But bear in mind that all you need for the flavor of a dominant chord is the 3rd and flatted 7th, the 5th and flatted 7th of the chord, the 7th and the 9th, or even just the 7th; and these can be found in innumerable positions. For example, Jimmy Day, to play a D7 as a II chord, frequently used the third fret and the B and C pedals. He's subbing an Am for the D7, but it does contain the 5th (A) and the flatted 7th (C) of the D7. The E, the ninth of the D7 scale, adds to the dominant quality of the chord. I hope this helps.

Jim Whitaker · Post by **Jim Whitaker** » 6 Dec 2002 7:07 pm

Thanks all. Dave I need you living next door to me. To summarize if I am playing a 7th scale these are the three main intervals I would use to develop this scale? I think I have had to learn more about music theory in this last year(Trying to play this steel) Than this old Hillbilly has learned in 25 years of playing bass.

Jim

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JIM
"Carter SD10" "74" LTD & NASHVILLE 400, Profex II "55" Esquire, "63 Epiphone, "63" Precision,
"71" Jazz
[This message was edited by Jim Whitaker on 06 December 2002 at 07:09 PM.]

Dave Birkett · Post by **Dave Birkett** » 6 Dec 2002 11:54 pm

Jim, I recommend Buddy Emmons' E9 Chord Dictionary. It's good, thorough and inexpensive. Regarding music theory, I believe a Forum member has a book out on the subject. Also, your local junior college probably offers classes of beginning theory every semester or quarter. That's where I learned it--cough!--years ago. They'll also teach you to sight read, sight sing, take music dictation, all invaluble skills to have.

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 8 Dec 2002 9:52 am

<pre>
7th chords...hmmm.
</pre>
<pre>
"Hal Rugg" V to I or I to IV
</pre>
<pre>
2--12L--12L-----12L-|--------
3--12---12~12B--12--|-12B----
4--12---12~12C--12--|-12-----
5-------------------|-12~12A-

beats 2 3 4 1
</pre>
<pre>
"Classic" V to I
</pre>
<pre>
2--12-----12~11~10-|--------
3--12~12B-12~11~10-|--------
4------------------|--12----
5--12~12A-12~11~10-|--12----
6------------------|--12----

beats 2 3 + 4 1
</pre>
<pre>
"Fat Jazz" chords
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<pre>
I to IVb13 to IV6
</pre>
<pre>
5--5----5A-----|--3--
6--5----5------|--3--
7--------------|--3--
8--5~5L----5R--|--3L-
9-------5------|-----

beats 1 2 3 4 1
</pre>

Hope these help.

Drew Howard

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[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 08 December 2002 at 11:58 AM.]