Best Era of Oahu Steels?

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Phillip Holt
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Best Era of Oahu Steels?

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Is there a certain era or models of Oahu steels that people prefer. Most curious of pickup quality and certain things to avoid if I'm looking at buying a vintage Oahu?
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One thing I can think of:
I am not sure if it affected all Valco product brands, but it seems like the later Supro branded instruments would sometimes use a dummy pickup magnet, so instead of two magnets, one of them would be a piece of wood painted to look remarkably like an actual magnet :whoa:
Don't know if it is necessarily a deal breaker, but worth investigating...
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That's definitely the kind of info I'm looking for. Curious if the models made in the '40s are generally better and more sought after than things from the '50s and so forth?
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I have and have had quite a few over the years.

Kay manufactured "Tonemaster" Oahu's... I like the ones from the early 40's...

The Valco manufactured ones I prefer are from the early 50'

The Valco pickup bobbins are literally made out of thin cardboard... I've seen them perfect condition and falling apart.

Adjusting the pole pieces on these is critical to getting the best sound, and some are very brittle and will break very easy.
My experience is they can be pretty inconsistent and quirky but it's part of the charm.
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The body of my late Tonemaster is not symmetrical.
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Hey Frank, how would you identify one from the early '40s?
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Phillip Holt wrote:Hey Frank, how would you identify one from the early '40s?
Not sure if this is definitive but I look for the double fretboard dots on the 1st fret... some of the later ones I've seen have the dots on the second fret.
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Copy that, curious if anybody else can verify that?
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I've attached some images of various Oahus that I found online that are all listed as '30s or '40s. Anybody have thougths on if any are more desireable than others related to pickup tone/quality? Are any to be avoided?


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Here's the model I've had good luck with... Note the difference in the fretboard markers. All three of mine sound and play wonderful

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I like this one.
This is just like my 1st guitar

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I just got this Tonemaster. It has a stamp on the top of the headstock: T145. Does anyone know how to decipher that? I'm assuming the "T" is for Tonemaster. Could the 45 be the year?


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Joseph Lazo wrote:I just got this Tonemaster. It has a stamp on the top of the headstock: T145. Does anyone know how to decipher that? I'm assuming the "T" is for Tonemaster. Could the 45 be the year?
This is one of the later models, late '40s to early '50s. As far as I know, these were the only Kay-built instruments to receive serials prior to the Valco merger in 1966. However, there is no known list of these serials out there.

1945 would be too early by a couple of years, as post-War production of electrics hadn't ramped back up. I believe these serials were probably sequential and you can't read the year from them without some long-lost factory records.
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Thanks, Noah! There's some old sheet music that came in the case and it's dated 1949, so the time frame you mentioned syncs with that.
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