Mooer Prime 1 (or 2) Very minimal, seems functional.

[Tim Toberer]

I have been trying to put together a small pedalboard and integrate an iPad into my practice rig, as well a small recording setup. I have a small pile of pedals now, power supply etc. but I really dislike the rats nest it is becoming. I want minimal and simple and affordable. I came across this thing and it is tempting me. Calling this minimal may sound strange, because of the insane variety of sounds. I don't think I would use most of them, but it looks fun! The looper function alone with drum machine looks very useful. I would worry about the latency, but no one seems to be complaining about it. Can get for under $150 which seems reasonable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I18cSWc2vI4

[Jon Light (deceased)]

I have evolved and devolved thru lots and lots of gear and I've come to know a few things for myself.
No matter how much time I spend at home preparing, my fx will need to be tweaked onstage. The only digital multi-fx that provided the fingertip control that I need was my PODxt which served me well. But I've gone back to the dark side of stompbox pedal boards.

The other problem with multi-fx is that I always find that there is at least one thing -- maybe chorus unit or a phaser -- that just isn't what I'm looking for. So I add stompbox that I like. And man, I love the sound of that ambient delay I just saw on youtube. Let me add that. Before I know it I've got loose pieces in addition to the digital unit and my rig is getting silly. Again.

This is emphatically me talking about me. I simply know that digital units with menus and submenus are no-go for me.

[Tim Toberer]

But I've gone back to the dark side of stompbox pedal boards.


I simply know that digital units with menus and submenus are no-go for me.

Funny Cause I always consider the dark side to be going digital…. As far as the app goes, I know what you mean. Whenever I start thinking about getting a modeling amp I turn back when I start to look at the computer side with all the updates and such. That said I have watched several videos on this product and it looks extremely approachable and I am a basically a Luddite.
I am realizing there may be some advantages to going digital especially for recording. I am gonna sit on it for a while, cause I always make the wrong decisions and end up with junk I don’t want. If I still like it in a few weeks I might pull the trigger.

[Jon Light (deceased)]

Funny Cause I always consider the dark side to be going digital….

Ha. I think all I mean by that is that by going with individual stomp boxes, whether digital or analog, the door has been opened for uncontrollable accumulation of boxes, where every day presents an interesting new flavor that I really want to try. That's my dark side.

This is just some of them. Lots more scattered around.

[Jack Stanton]

Jon,
I see the Specular Reverb didn't last long on the old pedal board....

[Jon Light (deceased)]

Jon,
I see the Specular Reverb didn't last long on the old pedal board....

🙃 🙃
Oh man, Jack. What a deep pedal. So much stuff in it and it's GOOD sounding stuff. But as much as I believed in myself when I bought it from you, I'm in the same place as you were with it. I could read and learn the manual today. And then need to read and learn the manual tomorrow. And the next day. The Youtube demos sound so good!

I know better than to buy stuff like that.
Except apparently I don't.
Going to have to sell it, same as you did.

[Lee Baucum]

I've gotten pretty good at operating my EH Holy Grail Nano reverb.

One knob, one toggle switch.

I rarely have to refer back to the instruction manual.



~Lee

PS: I do miss my old rack mount Lexicon MPX 100 Dual Channel Processor.

[Jon Light (deceased)]

I've gotten pretty good at operating my EH Holy Grail Nano reverb.

One knob, one toggle switch.

I rarely have to refer back to the instruction manual.

:P

~Lee

PS: I do miss my old rack mount Lexicon MPX 100 Dual Channel Processor.

But no mention of that big 'stomp switch'. Mine just sat there and did nothing until someone told me you have to press it. I mean, what? I'm supposed to be born knowing that?

[Tim Toberer]

That's my dark side.

This is just some of them. Lots more scattered around.

That is quite a collection! I don't think the Mooer contains the high quality of sounds you could obtain with those pedals, but I think it would be close enough for me. I like to play around with delays and overdrives etc, but in the end I like a pretty clean tweed like tone with maybe a little breakup and a touch of reverb. I could get close to this with almost any setup. I could never justify having all those pedals, but I get it.

I realized the Mooer is basically a headphone amp with the 1/4" out and the bluetooth pedal. These 2 additions make it a fully functional guitar rig. The closest comparison to this seems the be the high end, much bulkier (and expensive) Kemper profiler and the Fender Tonemaster Pro. If I were more than a basement tinkerer, maybe I would invest in one of these. The technology has gotten so small and so good there is no reason it can't fit in a headphone amp.

[Jon Light (deceased)]

Most importantly, with my apologies for the gross hijacking of this discussion of the Mooer, if you get this I want to hear your impressions.

I am absolutely not an boutique elitist. But my two personal objections remain:
--the difficulty of on-the-fly editing and
--the (for me) inevitable desire for 'just one more' pedal to cover 'the one thing' that this unit maybe does not do as well as some other pedal. Because my photo is a display of 'just one more' in the hands of a troubled (70 year old) lad.

I repeat, I very much want to read your review of sound and ease of use if you get one of these!

[Tim Toberer]

Most importantly, with my apologies for the gross hijacking of this discussion of the Mooer, if you get this I want to hear your impressions.

I I very much want to read your review of sound and ease of use if you get one of these!

I honestly wish more people on this forum would chime in with whatever and let the conversations lead where they may. I think many people don't respond for fear they are somehow hijacking somebodies precious thread. Anyone can stear it back on course easily if they want to. Hijack away! Anyone here read the Jazz of Physics??

[Larry Dering]

Tim, I have the Boss Pocket GT and it does a great job with their effects and amp models. The downside is you have to do your tweaking with the app on your phone or tablet and if your are satisfied you can then save it to the GT. There is a volume and reverb dials on the unit plus a little more but not much on the unit itself. You can also save your settings in a library on your phone or in the Boss tone studio. Check it out. I chose this over the Mooer unit.

[Tim Toberer]

Tim, I have the Boss Pocket GT and it does a great job with their effects and amp models. The downside is you have to do your tweaking with the app on your phone or tablet and if your are satisfied you can then save it to the GT. There is a volume and reverb dials on the unit plus a little more but not much on the unit itself. You can also save your settings in a library on your phone or in the Boss tone studio. Check it out. I chose this over the Mooer unit.

I just watched a few videos on this one. I think the tones from the Boss would be superior, but the auxiliary footswitch looks more limited and difficult to configure. I don't believe there is a looper function, which is a deal breaker for me becase I want this thing to replace all my pedals. I don't mind using my phone as the screen, it actually makes a lot of sense.

The NUX looks interesting, but no footswitch. I watched a bunch of videos to see how easy it is to configure a midi footswitch to these products as well as GarageBand and it just seems complicated and limiting. You basically have to write code for some of them. I hope the future generations of these products will incorporate wireless foot switches, but as of now I think the Mooer has an edge at least for me. I am still on the fence about the P1 or P2, but the P2 is is more than twice as expensive, and the only real difference is a small touchscreen and stereo output. Not sure if I care about either of these things? You still have to use the phone app to make real adjustments.

In some ways I think the likes of Boss and Fender don't want these little amps to be too good, because then they wouldn't have anything else to sell you!