Homemade bender?

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Mike McBride
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Homemade bender?

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I'm considering making a homemade b bender for my $50 lap steel. Anyone done this? I may use something like this:
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It could work to raise one string, it's worth a try just drill a few holes!
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Palm levers on a 2X4 lap steel

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I have been thinking about something similar. Look at a single finger pull release changer on a pedal steel as if they were reversed and extended backwards like levers over the strings. The string would go under the lever and as its pushed down it would pull the string raising the pitch. This could possibly be rigged to do a lower as well in reverse. The difficulty I was having in the design is making it ergonomic and where to put the tuning stop. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I would love to see what you come up with.

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I'm looking vertical axis instead of horizontal
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I'm looking vertical axis instead of horizontal
The window lock you posted is the same one I used in my outdoor shed. I don't believe they will hold up under the string tension. The rivets on the axle are very flimsy. Lots of play in the swivel. I had to fix several of them after only a few uses. I think the vertical axis idea is interesting, not sure how you would activate it that way, but you may be on to something.
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I think a Bigsby type device could be used. You'd have to provide a different anchor point for the other 5 strings perhaps by using screw on stop.


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Then wrap the B string the opposite direction around the rotating bar. When arm is lowered, the string would instead be tightened and the pitch raised.

You'd have to use some type of a set screw to limit the travel of the handle for appropriate destination pitch.

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Cost of materials: $50
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Simple but effective


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Simple but effective
Now this is my type of technology!
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Floor mounted version

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As long as it gets you from point A to point B!
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I broke down and bought something rather than building something. For $143 delivered I could not beat it. It bends both 2nd and 3rd strings.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304352990274?h ... SwaQZhynA5
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Let us know how it works! I build and engineer things as a hobby, rarely does it end up being easier and or cheaper than just buying something. I'm currently working on a simple pull release pedal steel. For months I was convinced bike brake cable would work easier than pedals and rods. I even tried to come up with a different style changer. None of that worked! I'm having lots of success with old tried and true designs... I may try to come up with a bender of sorts the future. I like to use off the shelf parts from the hardware store when I can.
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Mike McBride wrote:I broke down and bought something rather than building something. For $143 delivered I could not beat it. It bends both 2nd and 3rd strings.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304352990274?h ... SwaQZhynA5
Mike,

I copied from that very same Ebay ad and built a set very similar, all from scrap aluminum laying around the shop. Actually I built the entire guitar out of scrap material that was laying around the shop.

Your benders are made by a guy in Hawaii, it seems so right!

I copied the guitar from a Montgomery Ward "Rocket Six" that I had when I was a kid. Everything was Rocket this and Space that back then! The Emmons fretboard fit right in to the theme! Ha! And the 24 /4" scale worked out nicely for bends!

The body is made from pressure treated 2 x 4's, sustains like crazy!

The benders work great! Got the project done for under 25 bucks, a few trips to Ace HDWE.. I think I only have about 80 bucks in the whole guitar! The only tools I used were a drill press, hacksaw, and a 8-32 tap.


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This is a cool set of benders! By forumite Dave Begalka. I wish I had seen this a few weeks ago! Nice work Dave!


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Post by Tim Toberer »

Thanks for the pictures! I can clearly see how the mechanism works. This thread (and lots of others) probably belongs over in the builders forum.
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Here is another low buck option.


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Post by Mike McBride »

I bought some Pitch Witch benders from Peters Instruments in Muncie Indiana. Installation took about 30 minutes.

I am pleased with the outcome and am working on increasing my skill at finger picking the strings after 47 years of flat picking!
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bent,

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Tried a bunch of experiments, but to me, nothing beats the light touch of a Doozy.
These days though, just slanting more instead.
One more pic, before the thread police comes for us... but yes, this is a lap steel. B11, with the bender lowering the second string. 20" scale, D'ddario heavy strings.
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The unbent strings usually always go flat with benders for guitars and lap steels. A solution is the expired Emmons Counterforce patent.
Pushing the bridge back to slightly raise the unbent strings: https://patents.google.com/patent/US5883320A/en
The patent is available due to non-payment of renewal fees
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Post by Mike McBride »

Homemade from a Bigsby vibrato copy

Description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR_rMYCPwpg


Demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIUvr9qV28U
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