stainless vs nickel strings
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Jim Bloomfield
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stainless vs nickel strings
I've always used stainless, thinking about changing it up. Can you REALLY hear a difference between the two?
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The only difference between stainless and nickel strings are the wraps on the wound strings; the plain strings are all just regular steel music wire on both types. The stainless wound strings aren't as smooth, and they'll cause some drag if you're using a stainless steel bar. They also make a tiny bit more bar noise and sound a little "twangier". I've used both, but prefer the less twangy sound of the nickel type.
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I always liked the smooth sound and feel of Nickel Strings, but back when, they became dull and lifeless far to fast for a guy who never enjoyed changing stings
So I switched to stainless which to my ear after a break-in period settled into being less bright and brassy? But never to the extend where I thought they sounded as good as the Nickel... Since switching to the NYXL's a few years ago I'm back to that warm silky sound of the Nickel and with the NYXL's am pleased that they keep their warm silky sound, a VERY long time.
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I used George L Stainless for several years on an MSA Classic S10 I gigged. Went to a 12U, Continued using SIT Stainless Strings on a GFI.
I ordered strings about a week ago, Ordered 3 sets Stainless and 3 sets Nickel. I am getting ready to set up another 12U Keyless. I want to try Nickel and Stainless on the keyless before I decide which it sounds best.
The thing I have found over the years. Wipe Stainless wound strings with a piece of 0000 steel wool, Pulling toward the ball end until the steel wool slides smooth. 4 or 5 wipes. Makes the strings smoother and bar run smoother.
I ordered strings about a week ago, Ordered 3 sets Stainless and 3 sets Nickel. I am getting ready to set up another 12U Keyless. I want to try Nickel and Stainless on the keyless before I decide which it sounds best.
The thing I have found over the years. Wipe Stainless wound strings with a piece of 0000 steel wool, Pulling toward the ball end until the steel wool slides smooth. 4 or 5 wipes. Makes the strings smoother and bar run smoother.
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A little science - magnetic pickups need strings made of permeable (able to be magnetized) materials. The string needs to pull the magnetic field around so that a signal is induced in the stationary pickup coil. Stainless steel is not permeable. But, as Donny noted, the core is always steel which is permeable.
So, you could make the argument that Nickel wound strings present more permeable material than stainless steel wound so likely produce a bigger signal, and/or don't require as much pick attack to get the same signal level. This may explain the tone difference in fact as the sensitivity may be be affected by the frequency of the overtones.
So, you could make the argument that Nickel wound strings present more permeable material than stainless steel wound so likely produce a bigger signal, and/or don't require as much pick attack to get the same signal level. This may explain the tone difference in fact as the sensitivity may be be affected by the frequency of the overtones.
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The Stainless Steel winding wire used on SIT Stainless Steel string sets is attracted to a magnet when removed from the Core.
There is many industrial "so called stainless steels" that are attracted to magnets, And some are not happy if they are exposed to Coca-Cola. Or exposed to certain Costic Chemicals. Some manafactures of sharp stainless steel knives on its label say, "Hand Wash Only, Do Not Place In Dish Washer". Or the Edge will be etched.
There is many industrial "so called stainless steels" that are attracted to magnets, And some are not happy if they are exposed to Coca-Cola. Or exposed to certain Costic Chemicals. Some manafactures of sharp stainless steel knives on its label say, "Hand Wash Only, Do Not Place In Dish Washer". Or the Edge will be etched.
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Thanks for all the input guys. I went ahead and ordered a set.rick andrews wrote:Hey Jim,
I use nickel strings. Like others have said, they play and sound smoother than SS. I go back and forth between Jagwire, Live Steel Strings and GHS. I would like to try the NYXL but haven't found any in 12 string sets.
Hopefully we can get together in 2021.
Rick - sounds good. I'm itching to play more!
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