C6 KR A to Bb?

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 27 Nov 2006 8:05 pm

I'm wondering how common this change is and how useful. I've seen it in courses but I only have one knee on the 6...C to B (RKL). I'm practicing modes on the 6 and am thinking maybe I should be using (adding) more levers like the A to B(RKR) and C to C# (LKL) and Gto F(LKL). I'm thinking it'd be a lot easier to learn with them now rather than add them later but don't want to bother if they won't be utilized much. My feeling is that more levers is better always but would appreciate any feedback from you vets out there. Thanks.--Scott

Billy Wilson · Post by **Billy Wilson** » 27 Nov 2006 9:14 pm

I would say go for all of 'em. When I got my C6th set up so that I have as many knee levers on there as I do on E9th is when I really started having fun with it.

Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 28 Nov 2006 11:08 am

I agree with Billy. If you intend to really dig in deep on C6, I would recommend at least 3 knee levers. A 4th and then a vertical 5th is even better. The general consensus seems to be that, after the standard C->B, the A->Bb and C->C# are the most popular ones. After that, you can choose between G->F, E->F, A->Ab, middle E->D, middle C->D, high E->D, and low F->Eb. All have been discussed and have supporters.

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Robbie Daniels · Post by **Robbie Daniels** » 28 Nov 2006 1:13 pm

My RKL lowers C to B and my RKR raises A to Bb. I have been using that arrangement for forty years. The A to Bb has a lot of good uses espically chopping with the 5 pedal or the pedal that raises and lowers the E's.

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Buck Dilly · Post by **Buck Dilly** » 28 Nov 2006 2:45 pm

Better to have it and not need it than not have it to try. I believe this because of the learning curve required to really be able to use many combinations.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 28 Nov 2006 4:18 pm

That's one of those levers that I thought I'd use a lot, but don't. I wouldn't miss it if I didn't have it. But then, I don't play the normal C6th styles so you shouldn't follow my example.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 28 Nov 2006 5:04 pm

Put the extra levers on and then if you don't like the changes, hey just change things around and try something else...at least with the levers on there you will have that option.

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 29 Nov 2006 7:40 am

Thanks a lot for the replies. I'll go for it.If nothing else I'll be able to play and lever into more notes in one position. Then experiment with more combinations. I guess I'd really prefer to start running scales with these right off rather than change habits later.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 29 Nov 2006 9:25 am

Scott, you're better off w: more knee levers than just the one you got
the first 3 that Jeff L mentions are down for the count on most C6 copedents
the A to Bb change in confunktion w pedal 6 is very useful when playing minor & sus or 11 cords
that same change comes in handy for a dom 7 from the 6 on the A strings when playin' in C (0 or 12 frets)
the G to F change is a dandy one
as well as the A to Ab
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Susan Alcorn (deceased) · Post by **Susan Alcorn (deceased)** » 29 Nov 2006 11:25 am

I use a knee lever that goes from A to B (for two strings) with a half-stop at Bb, and to me this is very useful.

Best of luck.

Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 29 Nov 2006 2:47 pm

I've got the same pulls Susan was talking about on my RKR. With a little help from my pal Jim Palenscar and some good luck, I now can use the same half stop to also work on the 2nd string Eb-D-Db lower on my E9. It's a little stiff, but it's worth it IMO. It definitely has a nice solid feel when going to either half step.

That freed up the 4th floor pedal for something else equally cool.