Guys, need help on year model MSA

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 6 Oct 2006 5:38 pm

I went to look at an older model MSA today and was wondering if ya'll could give me a ballpark figure on the year model. I didn't get the serial # but the guitar has the typical MSA on the right side front apron and classic on the left side. The rear apron has two small tone knobs, and a toggle switch for switching necks on the right rear apron. And the pedal board don't have the slide clamps to hold it to the legs, it has bolts that bolt right through the center of the front legs. Just wondering if any of these features would help figure out about what the year model would be. I'm thinkin early 70's model, but that's just a wild guess. Can anybody help me out on this? Thanks
BTW- This guitar pedals as smooth if not smoother than my Mullen, and has very quick action. I'm thinkin of buying it for a 2nd guitar.
Terry

Wayne D. Clark · Post by **Wayne D. Clark** » 6 Oct 2006 6:10 pm

I have a MSA D10 8/2 I am selling of that era, turn the insterment over I should have a sticker, possibly on the end with a name, could be Bud Carter. He worked for MSA in thoses years. He now makes his own Brand, CARTER PSG's. Mine has his name on that sticker as final inspection.

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Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 6 Oct 2006 7:22 pm

Make sure that it has the round cross shafts instead of the bar type shafts used in the late 60s very early 70s and not the changer that looks like a Beck style changer.

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 7 Oct 2006 5:56 am

Is is a mica or lacquer finish? Around '76 the went to the maple bodies with lacquer finishes.

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Robbie Daniels · Post by **Robbie Daniels** » 7 Oct 2006 9:56 am

Terry I have a D12 MSA built for me in 1974 and a S12 MSA that I have acquired, both built in the mid 70's. If it has felt under the bottom of the psg and the round style pivot rods I would be relatively sure that it was built in the mid 70's and it should have a stocker certified by Bud Carter.

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Robbie Daniels · Post by **Robbie Daniels** » 7 Oct 2006 9:57 am

Oops that should say sticker not stocker

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Fred Shannon · Post by **Fred Shannon** » 7 Oct 2006 10:32 am

Terry, the thru bolts on the pedal board are common to the classic MSAs. If you look on the bottom of the guitar there should be a serial number stamped that would look like either
"2cXXXX" or "1cXXXX"; where the X's are numbers from 0 to 9. After you get that post for Reece Anderson to find all the info they have on the guitar. He considers it a privilege to do that.
Phred

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Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 7 Oct 2006 12:10 pm

Ok thanks a bunch guys. It's white mica , I didn't notice any felt under the guitar, but could have been.
I played this guitar about a year ago through a Nashville 1000, and it had a very good tone, not real mellow like the first MSA I had, It has the Super sustain II pickup on E9, and the pedal action is smooth and quick. I think I'm goin to buy it, for a 2nd guitar. I've been needing a 2nd steel for a long time. I'll leave it set up at the Church.
Will a Mullen fretboard fit this model MSA?
the difference in fretboard designs just blows my mind, and I get lost as a goose.
I'm goin to need to buy some rubber tips for the legs also. Reckon I can find some tips that would fit at a hardware store?

Terry

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Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 7 Oct 2006 8:28 pm

If it's white Mica it's from the early 70s.

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Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 8 Oct 2006 7:21 am

Thanks Mike, I figured it was around that year model.

Terry

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Hotrod Deville 2x12's
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