Interesting Zoom MS-50G issue

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 1 Jun 2019 2:39 pm

I use the Zoom in the effects loop of my Nashville 400 for reverb and delay. I have 2 patches I use. One is just reverb and the other is reverb and delay. With the Zoom turned OFF, I still get reverb. There is no reverb in the amp (it died years ago), and it goes away if I take it out of the loop.

If the reverb/delay patch was the last program I used, I don't get the delay, but do get the reverb with the pedal turned off.

Any ideas?

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 1 Jun 2019 4:33 pm

Poltergeist?

Dennis Detweiler · Post by **Dennis Detweiler** » 1 Jun 2019 5:33 pm

I assume you're using the mono out. I'm assuming there is a program you have to dial up for the delay and for the reverb. Make sure they are both in mono mode? Maybe they have to be programmed for series and it's in parallel (one for each side of the stereo outs)? I have one of these units, but I haven't used it.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 1 Jun 2019 7:36 pm

The output is the L/mono side. There is 1 patch with reverb only and a different patch that has both delay and reverb. I would think that with the pedal turned off, no signal processing would take place. I'm thinking that the poltergiest theory is very possible. I'm going to dig out my Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and see if it has the problem. I'd bet not.

Dennis Detweiler · Post by **Dennis Detweiler** » 2 Jun 2019 4:44 am

Too spooky. Take the pedal to a priest?
I use a MXR Carbon Copy and HOF inline through my Rev effects loop and have no problems.

Ed Pettersen · Post by **Ed Pettersen** » 2 Jun 2019 5:00 am

I don't know if this is the issue but this unit works best if you put a Line Sel patch first then whatever else you need. Is it sending reverb on just the reverb patch or the delay/reverb patch? I ask because each patch would need to be turned off individually so for instance if it's the delay/reverb patch if you turn off the delay the reverb may still be on . Make sense? Or it could be a ghost in the machine <g>.

Good luck! I have found Zoom customer support great BTW if this doesn't help.

Bill Nevins · Post by **Bill Nevins** » 2 Jun 2019 4:54 pm

you must scroll the effect left or right to get the effect you want and then turn it on or off,if the delay effect is on the screen and you turn it off that is the only effect you are turning off if you scroll left or right and an effect is on you will see the power button light up...

Ed Pettersen · Post by **Ed Pettersen** » 2 Jun 2019 6:55 pm

Bill Nevins wrote:you must scroll the effect left or right to get the effect you want and then turn it on or off,if the delay effect is on the screen and you turn it off that is the only effect you are turning off if you scroll left or right and an effect is on you will see the power button light up...

Exactly. Hopefully that's the issue.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 3 Jun 2019 4:13 am

Bill Nevins wrote:you must scroll the effect left or right to get the effect you want and then turn it on or off,if the delay effect is on the screen and you turn it off that is the only effect you are turning off if you scroll left or right and an effect is on you will see the power button light up...

That sounds like the issue. But why would they make a unit where multiple effects can be tied together in a patch, and only one of the effects gets turned off when you press the switch. I guess I need to get the manual out.

This is not really a problem for me. More curiosity than a problem. I never play without reverb, and sometimes delay.

Ed Pettersen · Post by **Ed Pettersen** » 3 Jun 2019 4:35 am

Richard Sinkler wrote:
Bill Nevins wrote:you must scroll the effect left or right to get the effect you want and then turn it on or off,if the delay effect is on the screen and you turn it off that is the only effect you are turning off if you scroll left or right and an effect is on you will see the power button light up...
That sounds like the issue. But why would they make a unit where multiple effects can be tied together in a patch, and only one of the effects gets turned off when you press the switch. I guess I need to get the manual out.

This is not really a problem for me. More curiosity than a problem. I never play without reverb, and sometimes delay.

If you never play without reverb put the delay first in the chain and then when you bypass the effect the delay will go off but not the reverb. That's how it works on mine and though I put Line Sel first in every patch to avoid latency when switching presets if the delay is up on the screen in the patch that's what will turn off when you bypass the effect.

Tom Wolverton · Post by **Tom Wolverton** » 3 Jun 2019 6:16 am

What I do is make a 3rd patch with nothing on it. It is my dry, pass-thru patch.