LKV on PP guitar

Andrew Waegel · Post by **Andrew Waegel** » 28 May 2006 9:59 pm

Hello,

I have a S10 Emmons PP with a LKV lever that does nothing. I want to do the typical B -> Bb change but I thought that with a push pull mechanism it wasn't possible to lower a raised string, which is how i'm used to playing this change (lowering strings 6-10 to C from C# engaging LKV with AB pedals down).

Other PP players, what do you do with LKV?

Thanks,
- Andrew

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 28 May 2006 10:21 pm

Yes, raises override lowers.

I lower string 5 to Bb on the LKV, but obviously this lever is redundant if the A or C pedal is pressed.

Bobbe Seymour has written that it is possible to engineer a way round this, I can't remember how, perhaps we'll hear from him.

Lynn Stafford · Post by **Lynn Stafford** » 29 May 2006 7:06 am

Andrew,

I have been playing a PP for many years. I've raised my seventh string to G while also lowering my fifth string from B to Bb with the L knee vertical. Because the changer is raise-dominate, string five is not lowered with the pedals down, thus giving you an A7 chord. Also, as a side benifit, you get a handy D chord (suspended, if you raise string seven), using strings 6, 7 and 9 in the open position with pedals down. Try doing a hammer-on with your bar on string seven at the first fret to get the idea.

Lynn

John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 29 May 2006 5:26 pm

Ha~Ha! Here's my chance again. You distroy a vintage guitar by replacing the changer with an All-Pull¡¡¡¡ [Just kidding!]

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Andrew Waegel · Post by **Andrew Waegel** » 29 May 2006 11:20 pm

Actually I've thought of ditching the PP a few times for a modern guitar with an all-pull changer but then when I fire up the old gal and that tone hits me, that warm clear crunch that blossoms in the ears like good bourbon on the tongue, i think ok, i'll keep her for a while more...

- Handy Andy

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 30 May 2006 4:18 am

I recently got an 8x4 guitar as my main axe, to replace my 8x5 all-pull. I used the AB+LKV for the 4 minor chord as a crutch for years, just because it's easier to play it in tune that way. My suggestion? Practice learning to play the half-A-pedal in tune and use the change for something else, like Lynn suggested. It's a very versatile thing to have in your muscle memory, IMHO.

-MG

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Buck Dilly · Post by **Buck Dilly** » 30 May 2006 5:00 am

By all means add the B's to Bb. You will grow to love this change. It has several applications. Try it with your RKR-D# and D to C#.

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