what is a good choice for a 4th floor pedal?

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William Johnson
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what is a good choice for a 4th floor pedal?

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i am curious, but what do ya'll feel is the most useful move for a 4th floor pedal (D)?

any examples i can heard in certain songs?

what are the pulls (set-up) for the Franklin D pedal move? used much these days?

thanks,

Billy


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Post by Bill Rowlett »

I made one that opens a trap door in front of me. Now when some drunk annoys me I just step on the fourth pedal and shazamm. . .. Image

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Post by Jerry Hayes R.I.P. »

Hey Billy, the logical place to put a 4th E9th pedal is in the 1st position next to your A pedal as your foot is usually resting over the A & B pedals and moves to the right (Emmons) or to the left (Day) to activate the C pedal. This way it only has to move a little the other direction to use the 4th pedal....... I use a 4th pedal in position one but mine is the Tom Brumley thing of raising the 7th F# to G#....JH in Va.

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Post by Bobby Boggs »

Image If the Franklin 4th pedal bugs you with an Emmons set-up? You suggest moving it to pedal one.Then the 4th pedal slot is the perfect place for it. If, you play a Day set-up?
? If you move it to pedal one with a Day set-up?You have the same problem in reverse.

I say keep it in the 4th slot with either set-up.

If you choose to use what many refer to as the Franklin 4th pedal? And I'm not saying you should.The bottom line here.It's really hard to out smart the guy that made it famous.
<SMALL>I made one that opens a trap door in front of me. Now when some drunk annoys me I just step on the fourth pedal and shazamm</SMALL>
I think Bill has the best idea so far. Image

<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 15 February 2006 at 08:26 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Post by Mike Perlowin RIP »

Like my friend Jerry Hayes says, the best place to put it is adjascent to the A pedal, on the far left of you're using an Emmons set up.

A lot of players have this pedal lower the G# strings to G natural. (I have the change in a knee lever.) There are several good reasons for this, the main on is that when used with the A pedal, you get a diminished chord that also functions as a 7th chord (assuming the bass player is playing the root.)
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Post by Chris Brooks »

I have this one, Mike. Works great.

Chris

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Post by Roger Rettig »

I've had the Bs lowering to As on this pedal for a while now, but I'm not very excited by it. I think I'll change to lowering the G#s - that sounds more useful.

It'll also mean I can get a reliable 'split-tune' with my 'C' pedal ('Day' set-up) and my B to Bb lower (RKL) once again - that whole-tone lower has been screwing that split-tune up, and I've missed it!

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Post by John Poston »

The 3 most popular uses I see around here are

Lower 5 and 10 to A, lower G# to F# (or put the G# to F# on it's own lever)
Lower both G# to G
Raise sting 6 from G# to A#.

Also, some people put the common knee lever change F#s to G# and D# to E on the floor.

They're all good changes.

BTW - Whatever happened to raising 5 and 6 to C# and A with pedal 4?
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Post by Jim Eaton »

I have both the "0" pedal and the "Franklin pedal" on my 12 stg extended E9th set up and find that I use the "0" pedal more than I do the "PF" pedal, but I've had a "0" pedal a lot longer so I've found more uses for it, but both have lots of great applications when you get comfortable with how to use them.
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Post by Larry Allen »

Billy here's the way I set up my 4th pedal to get a cool E9 chord. Lower the 2nd 1/2 step to D, 3rd 1 step to F#, 4th 1 step to D. Good blues chord with easy scales. You can also quickly tune the 3rd up 1/2 step to G for a E7+9 chord. I use this on an extended E9 set up. Larry

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