Fender 800 on ebay

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 11 Jan 2006 12:46 pm

If your interested. I have no connection to the seller.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-Fender-model...

Please use the "click here" syntax described in the UBB Code Help File when posting long links. Thanks. -b0b- [This message was edited by b0b on 11 January 2006 at 12:59 PM.]

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 11 Jan 2006 12:56 pm

She's a honey Russ.. However we both know, its gonna go for a MINT.. 12 bids already w well over 5 days to go..

The vintage Fender freaks will rocket bid this one up to the moon,,, Tell you what tho'.. I'd give my Williams Keyless up for it, regardless of the "no knees" factor.. bob

Gary Spaeth · Post by **Gary Spaeth** » 12 Jan 2006 6:21 am

here's another with six pedals and best offer option. ebay auction #7381139915.

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 12 Jan 2006 8:25 am

There's something I have never seen before.

What the heck is the "felt" pad underneath the strings just ahead of the changer on this thing. Is that the "mute"?

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 12 Jan 2006 8:38 am

Yes Ray, that's the mute. Fender added it in '63 when they did the bridge redesign. Most were black neoprene sponge rubber, but they may have made a few with felt, or...that may have been someone's repair when the rubber dried out (a common occurence). It turned out to be a rather useless option, both on steel and on the staight guitars (Jaguar, Jazzmaster) they offered it on. Any decent player uses the heel of the hand for that sort of muting, as it's much more practical and versatile.

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 12 Jan 2006 8:59 am

Thanks Donny, you confirmed my suspicion when you said it was "useless".

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 12 Jan 2006 12:01 pm

No, no, no, not useless,

listen to these :-
Lover
A Walk in the Black forest
A Light Touch

BTW most of the ones I've seen and used were felt. I think the rubber was a replacement.

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Steel players do it without fretting

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Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 12 Jan 2006 1:57 pm

Very nice Basilh! One mans junk another mans treasure---the mute that is!!!![This message was edited by Bill Hatcher on 13 January 2006 at 09:29 AM.]

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 13 Jan 2006 3:05 am

Bill....Whist the analogy is good, I'm not sure which part is referring to my playing LOL

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 13 Jan 2006 9:02 am

Don't take it personal, Basil! My comments are just my own opinion, based on my playing, and that of hundreds of other steelers. I feel it's safe to say that since the patent expired long ago, and no other steel manufacturer has chosen to incorporate such a device, it's just not very useful or popular. Most steelers found it hard to switch the mute on and off quickly while playing, and opted for alternate methods of muting.

One other approach to muting (that I developed myself long ago) was to glue a strip of leather to the bar. Though it was faster to just roll the bar over a little than it was to fool with a lever, I still found it clumsy compared to the more conventional methods of (right hand) muting.

Besides, I said it was relatively useless, not totally useless!

p.s. Nice playing! Reminds me of Speedy West.

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 13 Jan 2006 9:30 am

Better?

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 13 Jan 2006 10:08 am

Donny, I totally understand what you're saying regarding the mute....But I STARTED my pro career on a Fender 1000, any guitar I had before that was just for practising with mainly..So I really learned to play when I had the fender 1000 (Still Have it) and using the mute became 'Second Nature' to me..I have had NO experience of the Neoprene or rubber mute insert.. only the felt one.
I would agree that the mute would seem the hardest way to go about getting 'That Sound'.. but not for me.

I'd like to say ..Thanks lads for the comments on the playing...That was me in 1965.. you should hear what a little practise can do !!
BTW I have now been playing 51 years, and when I learned to play, there were no such things as Videos or DVDs' or even players, to go and watch, solely the records to study.
I would consider this to be one of my better tracks from then. (Played on a Fender 1000) click here.. you've heard it before but what the heck
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Papa Joe Pollick · Post by **Papa Joe Pollick** » 13 Jan 2006 11:04 am

OH my Baz, That was sweet..YOU rascal,you didn't leave anything out.Sounded like you were playin 2 or 3 guitar at one time..Really nice playin..PJ

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 13 Jan 2006 4:54 pm

I've often thought it would be useful to have a palm-activated lever that muted just a few strings, like the D and F# strings of the E9th.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 13 Jan 2006 5:02 pm

Nice pickin'!

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 13 Jan 2006 7:12 pm

Mr. Lee you should design and register that idea..Maybe like the Autoharp principle ..

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 15 Jan 2006 3:18 am

Russ, sorry, I didn't mean to Hijack the thread...

I wonder what the final price will be ?
I'm SO tempted, especially as my wife just bought a Taylor 814CE 6L , kinda opens the door a little !!

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 15 Jan 2006 5:21 am

No problem Basil. Great playing on that 1000! I'm just collecting parts to add a few pedals to my 400.

Russ

Gary Spaeth · Post by **Gary Spaeth** » 17 Jan 2006 4:37 pm

$940 for a final price? SHEESS! i don't get it. seems to me an old 1000 would be more desirable for the classic sound and hence worth more. 1000s barely get over $600-700 on ebay.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 18 Jan 2006 2:42 am

Gary if you want to do a "JD' or a "Sneaky" then you NEED 10 strings !!

Gary Spaeth · Post by **Gary Spaeth** » 18 Jan 2006 5:26 am

my suite steel album says sneaky pete plays an 8 string. someone will have to fill me in on the history of post "63 10 string fender. what influential players used them on what songs? i can't think of too many. they mostly played emmons and sho-bud.[This message was edited by Gary Spaeth on 18 January 2006 at 05:37 AM.]

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 18 Jan 2006 12:13 pm

Curly's "Big Hits On Big Steel" was made with a 10-string Fender, but that's the only one I can think of, off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably others, but it was just never a popular guitar after '64.

"'Tweren't the planes that killed the beast, t'was rods."

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 20 Jan 2006 2:52 pm

Basil.. truly great playing!.. just lovely.. Re affirms my steadfast conviction that the cable Fenders were among the BEST sounding of ALL steel guitars... bob

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 21 Jan 2006 7:03 am

Bob C ..... I couldn't agree with you more about the sound of the old Fender 400/1000-800/2000 guitars..
One of the best ways to compare steel sounds would be at a live show with different players playing different guitars through the same amp.
Read Richard Burton's comments here :- Click Here [This message was edited by basilh on 21 January 2006 at 03:54 PM.]