S10 or SD10

Dale Rottacker · Post by **Dale Rottacker** » 25 Nov 2017 1:42 pm

If you were to buy a new Single neck guitar, what would it be?

An S10 or and SD10, and why would you pick one over the other?

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 25 Nov 2017 2:26 pm

It may be bad form but I'm more in control when I can very lightly rest my forearm on something.

I don't sit further back from the guitar to play C6 on my D-10 and I have no problem. I have to assume I've become used to playing the back neck without support.

My Zum Encore was ordered without a 'pad' but, after a couple of years, I had Doug send me one. I'm glad I did. I'm more at home on that guitar now.

PS: My JCH is an SD-10 - I wanted a JCH whatever form in came in but I couldn't be happier with it. No plans now for another SD (maybe another D-10, but that's another story) but that would be my choice.

Dan Kelly · Post by **Dan Kelly** » 25 Nov 2017 3:11 pm

The S-10 is a good choice for me based on weight and size considerations when transporting. I also keep a D-10 set up for practice and work on both necks.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 25 Nov 2017 3:58 pm

I actually just bought an SD-12. I like the double body, and find it more comfortable. Now to get used to the extra 2 strings.

Mark Robinson · Post by **Mark Robinson** » 25 Nov 2017 5:07 pm

S10 all the way, but my fat thumb voted SD10.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 25 Nov 2017 5:35 pm

S-10. Address your guitar properly, with good posture, and you don't need to reach across empty space to play it.

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 25 Nov 2017 5:49 pm

John Billings wrote:S-10. Address your guitar properly, with good posture, and you don't need to reach across empty space to play it.

exactly....

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 25 Nov 2017 5:56 pm

Single 10. I love the two that I have.

Dale Rottacker · Post by **Dale Rottacker** » 25 Nov 2017 6:33 pm

I have to say, you all have pointed out some things that I hadn’t really thought about... I haven’t played a single neck since my old Maple Maverick in the early 70’s, and I don’t play enough C6th to get a pseudo single neck feel.

I’m kind of surprised at the Poll numbers, as I thought for sure the SD would be the clear winner

Steve Schmidt · Post by **Steve Schmidt** » 25 Nov 2017 6:56 pm

An SD10 will bring the knee levers back a bit. I really like my SD10 PP.

Ben Lawson · Post by **Ben Lawson** » 26 Nov 2017 4:18 am

I would like an S10 Emmons P/P or LeGrande. Size and weight would br the main consideration. I play in three bands and only use C6 rarely.

Brett Day · Post by **Brett Day** » 26 Nov 2017 12:52 pm

I love my Jackson Blackjack Custom SD-10 with pad-three pedals, four knees!

Leo Grassl · Post by **Leo Grassl** » 26 Nov 2017 4:02 pm

Whatever you play you will adjust to. I don't think it matters. I've had both and I liked both. You can have "proper posture" and approach on either.
I prefer an SD-10 because I like the extra mass. I find this makes the guitar more stable and less likely to move around while I'm playing it.

Karl Paulsen · Post by **Karl Paulsen** » 26 Nov 2017 4:54 pm

I'm a newbie with an Encore so my opinion isn't backed up by much expereince but I said S10. I love the light weight when taking it around though. No extra weight please.

I do like the pad though!

I wonder what the poll results would be if you asked spcifically which choice for a guitar that was going to be taken to gigs and such?

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 26 Nov 2017 7:17 pm

I'm a pretty big guy and I just can't get comfortable behind a single neck guitar. I always played D10s until about a year ago when I got an SD10 Emmons P/P, and I really like it. It doesn't really feel any different than my D10s.

Jack Goodson · Post by **Jack Goodson** » 26 Nov 2017 7:47 pm

The best s/10 guitars you can find that has plenty of room underneath is the Sierra crown. The legs are further apart and have the space of a d/10. Only my opinion....jack

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 27 Nov 2017 1:16 am

Desert Rose guitars by Chuck Back make a size that is in between anS-10 and an Sd-10 mine is 4 pedals and 5 knees ,I recently installed a fretboard by forumite Andy DePaule.

Dale Rottacker · Post by **Dale Rottacker** » 27 Nov 2017 1:24 am

I’ve really enjoyed reading everyone’s particular take on preference for SD vs S.. and except for Marks Fat Thumb

, right now we’re at an even 50% split...
Keep the responses coming, you’ve all given better insight than I had... Thank-you ALL

Ray DeVoe · Post by **Ray DeVoe** » 27 Nov 2017 2:44 am

I have 2 Emmons SD 10 PP's. I prefer the SD 10's over a S 10 as they have more of the D 10 feel.

I can switch from one of my D 10's to a SD 10 and feel right at home.

I'm also a pretty big guy and a S 10 just feels "small" to me.

Wesley Medlen · Post by **Wesley Medlen** » 27 Nov 2017 3:11 am

I go for an SD10. Did have two one I kept in cowboy church sold it to buy a lighter one to haul around but had to use the money on medical. Wes

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 27 Nov 2017 3:19 am

SD-10. I have a D-10 and my wife has an S-10. Should have got an SD-10 as it seems to allow better control of the right hand. She does much better on my D-10 than she does with her S-10.

However, you can't let the guitar "play you". Play whatever you have.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 27 Nov 2017 4:04 am

I prefer an SD10 for comfort and lever placement, but I have played a lot of S10s that sound great. One of the best sounding steels that I have ever played (out of many hundreds) was a ZB student model. Also played an S10 Emmons push pull that sounded incredible. For those players who are happy with the ergonomics of an S10, I would say that they are well worth consideration.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 27 Nov 2017 6:13 am

I play D-10 guitars primarily, but I do have 2 Emmons PP S-10s (one each in E9 and C6) for the weight and convenience factor on jobs that only require one neck.

I don't have any problem with supporting my arms because I play so much C6 I'm used to that feel. What problem I do have with S-10 guitars is the angle of the volume pedal vis a' vis my ankle.

My gigging D-10 volume pedals, Telonics and Goodrich, have brackets that attach to the pedal rack, and these brackets position the pedal in a fixed position from the rack. On an S-10, sitting closer to the volume pedal puts my ankle in a too extended "up" position when trying to keep the volume backed off, so I have to use a volume pedal without the attachment bracket to allow a different floor position for the pedal. I have two pedals like that just for the purpose of S-10 playing. I also have to sit slightly further back from the guitar on an S-10 than I would on a double neck.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 27 Nov 2017 7:03 am

I like S10's because they are a little bit smaller and lighter. I mostly play D10's but for airplanes I need to go as small and light as possible.

Overall there is not much difference between an SD10 and an S10 as far as I'm concerned. As long as I can get a decent sound and be comfortable enough to play in tune I'm fine with whatever.

Dale Rottacker · Post by **Dale Rottacker** » 27 Nov 2017 7:26 am

Well, some of what I’m reading here is really resonating with me...

You folks are REALLY having an impact on my, shortly to be made decision.

Some of what Herb has said has really struck a Chord

... ever since I broke my right ankle I tend to want the pedal further to my right and at times clear outside of the legs, just to relieve some of that angle Herb spoke about.

What I’m picking up on from what I’m reading, is that if you’re playing out all the time or flying with your guitar and only need a single neck, then the lighter weight may become a bigger consideration.

If you don’t need to move a guitar a lot, then the SD-10 is probably the more comfortable of the two.

Not sure why this is playing with my head so much... Good thing I’ve never been accused of OVER thinking something.

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