vertical lever that flat 5 & 10

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 9 May 2005 2:35 pm

If you pick strings 456 and apply the vertical lever that lowers your b's to b flat what chord do you get?

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 9 May 2005 2:39 pm

F#9

-John[This message was edited by John Steele on 09 May 2005 at 03:40 PM.]

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 9 May 2005 2:57 pm

Thanks John. Could you give me some examples were I could use this lever. Thanks, Regards Brian

Willie Crisel · Post by **Willie Crisel** » 9 May 2005 4:43 pm

Wasn't this the change on togather again,,3 and 5 then lower 5 i/2 tone,,,been working on it,,still have to fake it.it seems to work in the pedals down position as well as no pedal position,,i could be wrong,,

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 9 May 2005 7:08 pm

Willie

That pull will enable you to get that Brumley lick, but it isn't how he did it back then.

Pick 3 and 5 with your A pedal raised, slide down a fret - this time add the B pedal, go back up fret with no pedals, then, finally, down again raising just the B pedal. There it is - all on strings 3 and 5 with just the two pedals.

Somehow it sounds better if you do it the old way.....

RR

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 9 May 2005 7:15 pm

PS: This is easily my third-favourite knee-lever, so I don't like it on the vertical; for me it has to be RKL - much easier with my little legs!

As for it's applications, they're almost endless, at least when going for more modern 'pop' changes. I know one can half-pedal the 'A' and get the same as the 'split', but the B lower will take the string all the way down below the 'zero' fret. Lots to be found with this pull and a 9, 6 & 5 string grip, too!

RR

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 9 May 2005 7:24 pm

Tb,
Have you ever heard Buddy Emmons version of "This Cold War With You" from his Expedition E9th album ? He uses this change to go to the II chord in the chorus, just by engaging the lever on a wide voicing. It's beautiful. That's where I hear it most, is when someone wants to go from a I chord to a II.
Also, if you play an all pull guitar, or something that doesn't have the dominant raise on it, you can use it to turn your Major AB pedal chords into minor chords.
Hope this helps.
-John

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 9 May 2005 9:14 pm

You might also want to check these forum threads on this subject:

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/009854.html

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/008432.html

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/007617.html

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/004466.html

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/005401.html

I like this change a lot, and got a lot of useful ideas from these threads and others - just do a search of the Pedal Steel area under "B-Bb" or "x-lever".

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 10 May 2005 10:01 am

Wasn't this the change on togather again,,3 and 5 then lower 5 i/2 tone...

No, Tom Brumley moved the bar down a fret while engaging the 2nd pedal to keep the note constant on the 3rd string. You can do it with that lever, though, if you're lazy.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 10 May 2005 6:53 pm

I thought I already said that.....