C6: Lowering the 6th string from E to D

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 9 Dec 2004 8:34 pm

I've just added this change on my C6 vertical knee lever and looking for interesting voicings and things to do with it. I know I can use it for stacked 4ths by playing strings 6, 5, and 3. Other suggestions?
Thx,
jc

Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 9 Dec 2004 9:07 pm

Jim-Well good for you. Reece showed me that about 30 years ago. Many uses for it.

I also use the 5th string G to F that I learned from Reece's tuning. It resolves some suspended chords, both together goes into the subdominant. 6th string,the E to D gives a D7 with P5 and the 5th string G to F gives a 7th with P 6. The 5th string G to F also gives a nice Subdominant major7th.

I use these a lot when playing melody in the lower strings.

A guy as talented as you, will no doubt see all the possibilities and ramifications of these pulls in no time at all. I put them on knee alternate levers, so I can use them together at times....Happy Holidays...al

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Russ Wever · Post by **Russ Wever** » 9 Dec 2004 11:37 pm

Jimbeaux,
Your stack piles even higher with pedal 6 down on string 2 . . . (or lower with the 8th string).
~Russ-eaux

Bengt Erlandsen · Post by **Bengt Erlandsen** » 10 Dec 2004 4:12 am

If I had the 6str E-D on a LKV I would surely use it together w 4str A-Ab and P6 changing the F7 on strings 9 6 4 3 ( F Eb A C )w/P6 into Fm6 = Bb9 no root on the same strings (F D Ab C)

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 10 Dec 2004 5:55 am

Thanks guys. Keep the ideas comin'. Bengt, I have my A to Ab change on my LKL, which is a bit hard to engage at the same time as my LKV that lowers the 6th string, but I'll work at it.

Bengt Erlandsen · Post by **Bengt Erlandsen** » 10 Dec 2004 6:51 am

Just wonderin? Is there any reason for not lowering 7th string C-B at the same time on the LKV. That would give a D6 tuning on the 8 lowest strings w P5 and KL 3rd str C-B
W P5 LKV and KL(3rd str C-B) = D F# A B D F# A B E D

Without the 7th string lower on LKV it would look more like a sort of D13 tuning. Something to think about?

Bengt

Randy Beavers · Post by **Randy Beavers** » 10 Dec 2004 12:39 pm

Hey Jimbeaux.

Try using that 6th string lower along with your 4th or 7th pedals. Start with the 9th string, then 6, 5, 4. I use it as a 5 over 4 chord.

Michael McGee · Post by **Michael McGee** » 10 Dec 2004 12:50 pm

Jim, play the intro to 'night life' and on the last chord, instead of playing the major 9th from string 9 through 4 with no pedals, substitute with your new change and add pedal 7. Strum from string 9 through string 4 (or 3 also for that matter to get the 13th augmented 11).

It ends up just stacking a 2 major chord over a 6th, but I love that chord. The theory experts can jump in here, but I guess it's 9 over 6 add augmented 11th.

*Well, my idol, Mr. Beavers, posted while I was still typing, and he's right on it. It stacks a 5 over 4, or a 2 over 1, depending on the key center.

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Randy Beavers · Post by **Randy Beavers** » 10 Dec 2004 6:30 pm

I have a new change on my E9th that lets me get this exact voicing. Courtesy of Big "E"