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Sho_Bud question

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Did Sho-Bud ever manufacture steels with Formica covered bodies?
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No.
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Post by Chick Donner »

Weeeeellllllll, maybe. Wasn't the ShoBUd Fender guitar formica covered??
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Post by Tommy Minniear »

and,......lets not forget that beautiful finish on the later model Mavericks. (always reminded me of shelving paper).

I've never seen one. But, with all the experimenting that Sho~Bud did over the years, I wouldn't be suprised if one or two were made. Whether they "escaped" or not would have to be answered by someone who was around there at the time.

Interesting question. I'll bet Duane Marrs knows the answer.

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Post by Ed Naylor »

To my knowledge there was never one built. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works.
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Post by Bill Ford »

Sho-Bud Maverick did have formica,or a formca type covering on (I think)the latest ones....Had one,3+1, converted it to lefty for a friend. Feel free to click "back to pics", and look at the other ones on my site.

http://www.msnusers.com/WilliamsHandywork/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40

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Post by Jerry Hayes R.I.P. »

I wish I could remember his name but I can't. A while back I was watching the Grand Ole Opry and one of the major artists was appearing. When his steel player took a ride he was playing a formica covered steel with a ShoBud logo on the thing. I think he was wearing a ShoBud ball cap too. I don't believe it was a ShoBud though, it just looked like he'd put the decal on another brand of guitar. Does anyone else remember this? Have a good 'un, JH

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Post by David Nugent »

If we are thinking of the same show, I am fairly certain that was a Mullen with a Sho-Bud decal. I noticed that the end plates on the guitar he was playing were angled in the front.
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Post by Kenny Forbess »

If i'm not mistaken,
that was chad Udeen playing a Mullen with a Sho~Bud decal on the front of it.

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Post by Bobbe Seymour »

In 1985 when I bought the remainder of the Sho-Bud skunkworks, there were two experimental mica covered D-10 guitars in the batch. I sold one to Pete Howard in Nashville and I saw fit to destroy the other one. The mica one that I sold Mr. Howard now belongs to Larry Hinson here in Hendersonville. This guitar was used as a tone mule to see if mica actually would improve the sound/tone of the guitar.

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Bobbe,
I think there was one more in the pile,a single neck cabinet. Remember....?? Image

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Post by John Bechtel »

There were Two (2) Double-Neck Mica Sho-Buds built, including a Brown one and a Black one. One was built by Duane Marrs and one by Paul Franklin Sr.. How do I know? The Bible {P.F.Sr.} tells me so! Image The powers to be chose not to persue the concept. The idea was to find out if the Mica-Base influenced the efficiency of the Aluminum-Neck. Apparently Mr. Sho-Bud was not impressed! What do you mean? (Who was Mr. Sho-Bud) Image

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Post by Donna Sherrard Williams »

I bet Boogie Sherrard knows the answer too if ole Duane doesnt Image)))))))))))))
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Post by Lem Smith »

Yes, and as of the date of this posting, Bobbe has it listed for sale on his Steel Guitar Nashvile website. Built for Hal Rugg it says. Cool.

If it sells because of this posting, can I have a commission Bobbe? Image

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Post by Herman Visser »

Hi Bill, Yes the Maverick in that pic. has a ever thin formica covering I have one.


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Post by Duane Marrs »

I have read the replys,concerning the formica Sho-Buds. Its been a long time, but to the best of my knowledge there was not over two or three mica Buds built. I do not remember a black mica Sho-Bud in the LDG model as Bob Knight posted. It could have been recovered, as one I built was in the Burl brown. And the other one a double neck in the brown. Hal Rugg was involved in the experiment, and may have played or tested out all of the mica guitars. Hal might remember better than myself. As for the later Mavricks, with the elm burl covering, this was not formica but rather a heavy plastic that was heat shrunk onto the cabinet. Formica is only a brand name such as Coke is to soft drinks. Many companys make a mica laminent which is a rigid material that is very difficult to bend and glue over rounded corners without proper heat to first shape it. Lots of steels have gone under the bridge since Sho-Bud,so don't start me lying. I can only give you what I remember as factual. Duane Marrs
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Post by David Nugent »

Check the SGN site, you will see one of these elusive beasts in the flesh.
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Post by David Nugent »

OOOPS!...disregard my previous post. I missed the post by Lem Smith relaying the same information.
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Post by John Bechtel »

I don't recall either of the Mica Sho–Bud D–10's that I saw having any Aluminum-Trim on the Cabinet-Skirts. I saw a Black one and a Brown one on the Showroom-Floor on Broadway.

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Post by CrowBear Schmitt »

here's the one Bobbe has: http://www.steelguitar.net/shobud7.html
otherwise it's at: http://www.steelguitar.net
click on ShoBud (left hand column)
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Post by Bobbe Seymour »

Yes, since this thread started I bought this guitar back again, (for the third time in 15 years). We made some minor improvements that have greatly improved the tone. Things that were in the works when Shot Jackson demanded the return of the guitar because of folks seeing it and wanting Sho-Bud to "build them one".
Sho-Bud had no intentions to ever build a "Mica" guitar, this was only a tone mule for expermenting perposes only. What Eric West said was true, "NO". None were ever intended for sale. Had I not bought the Sho-Bud steel guitars and parts stock from David Jackson in December of '85, this guitar would also have been destroyed.
As you will notice, I have this guitar priced very fairly, this price is for the guitar value only and not the historical or heritage value.
Who ever gets this guitar will truly have a great piece of Sho-Bud history and a great guitar to play to boot.
Duane Marrs came by to see it and said it brought back some old memories. He remembered it and the Hal Rugg history well.

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