Vance Terry/ Brisbane Bop

Jay Jessup · Post by **Jay Jessup** » 29 Feb 2016 5:49 pm

I came across my copy of the Joaquin records CD of the Vance Terry/Jimmie Rivers tunes from around '95 the other day. I had forgot how good this was, some great early pedal steel that still sounds current.
While giving it a listen I noticed that the booklet that came with it was improperly assembled such that I am missing pages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 21, 22, 23 and 24. It appears that Joaquin records no longer exists, would anyone have any thoughts on how I might obtain a correct copy of the booklet or failing that, would anyone be willing to scan those pages and e-mail them to me?
Thanks, Jay

Fish · Post by **Fish** » 29 Feb 2016 6:27 pm

Jay -
I love this album; it's one of my all-time faves!!
I've got you covered. Look for a PM from me.
Steve

Mark van Allen · Post by **Mark van Allen** » 29 Feb 2016 8:12 pm

Yeah, this album is one of the things I discovered through forum membership. I had no idea…

Roger Shackelton · Post by **Roger Shackelton** » 29 Feb 2016 8:14 pm

Here's a tune from the album, Brisbane Bop.

Published on Feb 20, 2014

More great guitar from this master of Jazzy Western Swing. The Steel player is Vance Terry.
Recorded at Club 23 in Brisbane, CA. in the early 1960's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RxP94ZteUg

Mitch Drumm · Post by **Mitch Drumm** » 29 Feb 2016 8:21 pm

This pic from 1962, about when the 23 Club stuff was recorded.

What guitar is he playing? Doesn't look like his Bigsby (which had 4 pedals) or a Wright.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 1 Mar 2016 4:10 am

Looks like a Wright to me. My Dad built quite a few guitars for Vance

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 1 Mar 2016 9:08 am

Here's a picture from the same shoot as you can tell by Vance's shirt & tie. Although the name is unintelligible on the name plate, I would say that after years of owning a Wright Custom from the same era, it's a Wright.

Looks like a young Gene Duncan doing the vocals..

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 1 Mar 2016 10:13 am

i'm sure david is right!

Miles Lang · Post by **Miles Lang** » 1 Mar 2016 10:20 am

Love Brisbane Bop - such a great record

Jay Jessup · Post by **Jay Jessup** » 1 Mar 2016 1:57 pm

Fish wrote:Jay -
I love this album; it's one of my all-time faves!!
I've got you covered. Look for a PM from me.
Steve

Thanks Steve, much appreciated--Jay

robert kramer · Post by **robert kramer** » 7 Mar 2016 11:40 am

I was looking for some Junior Barnard sides and found two sessions released over three LP's of Vance Terry cutting with Bob Wills (Remember Wills cut and recut the same songs so in the case of these 1955 sides - you almost have to find the LP's - I don't thinks these version are on CD).

24 January 1955 Decca Recording Studio, 5505 Melrose Ave., Hollywood, CA – Bob Wills (Darla Daret [vcl], Kenny Lowrey [gt], Tiny Moore [el mandolin/fiddle], Vance Terry [steel], Jack Lloyd [bass], Claude Powell [drums], Bob Wills [fiddle], Skeeter Elkins [piano])
353 L 8132 NEW OSAGE STOMP 9-29682/DL-5562
354 L 8133 CARNATIONS FOR THE MEMORY unissued
355 L 8134 TOO MUCH MAMBO unissued
356 L 8135 ECHO YODEL 9-29682/VL-3735
357 L 8136 NEW DREAMY EYED WALTZ unissued
358 L 8137 BLACK AND BLUE RAG unissued
359 L 8138 SINCERELY 9-29432/VL-3735
360 L 8139 CORNBALL RAG 9-29432/VL-3735
361 L 8140 BEAUMONT RAG DL-5562

25 January 1955 Decca Recording Studio, 5505 Melrose Ave., Hollywood, CA – Bob Wills (Darla Daret [vcl], Kenny Lowrey [gt], Tiny Moore [el mandolin/fiddle], Vance Terry [steel], Jack Lloyd [bass], Claude Powell [drums], Bob Wills [fiddle], Skeeter Elkins [piano])
362 L 8141 DON¢T LET YOUR DEAL GO DOWN DL-5562
363 L 8142 I’LL FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER YOU GO 9-29604
364 L 8143 FOUR OR FIVE TIMES DL-5562
365 L 8144 SAN ANTONIO ROSE 9-29604/DL-5562
366 L 8145 SPANISH TWO-STEP DL-5562
367 L 8146 LONE STAR RAG DL-5562 DL-8727
368 L 8147 THE BOSTON FANCY 9-29453/VL-3735
369 L 8148 HOOPAW RAG unissued

Decca DL-5562 Country And Western Dance-O-Rama, No. 2: New Osage Stomp; Black And Blue Rag; Beaumont Rag; Don't Let The Deal Go Down; Four Or Five Times; San Antonio Rose; Spanish Two Step; Lone Star Rag - 55 (10“ LP)

Vocalion VL-3735/VL-73735 Western Swing Along: So Let's Rock; Don't Keep It A Secret; Echo Yodel; Sincerely; Sugar Baby; Texas Fiddler; Oh Monah!; Lilly Dale; Cornball Rag; It's The Bottle Talking; The Boston Fancy; New Osage Stomp - 02-65

Decca DL-8727 Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys: Orange Blossom Special; Lone Star Rag; Toddleumbo; Bob's Breakdown; With Tears In My Eyes; An Old Flame; Wait'll You See; Texas Two Step; La Golondrina; Wills Breakdown; Betty's Waltz - 58

Mitch Drumm · Post by **Mitch Drumm** » 7 Mar 2016 2:11 pm

Robert:

Some of those 1955 tracks were issued on this CD in the 1990s.

https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Wills-And-T ... se/5684158

But several of them were nearly impossible to come by for well over 30 years after they were recorded. There was another Vocalion LP from the 1960s called "San Antonio Rose" (Vocalion 73922) containing some of the songs from 1955, but for whatever reason it was always very, very difficult to find.

That LP contained "Hoopaw Rag". When I first met Vance in 1980, I showed him that LP and he nearly fainted as he had assumed it had never been issued at all--he hadn't heard it since the day he recorded it with the Wills band. In fact, I think he may have written it.

robert kramer · Post by **robert kramer** » 7 Mar 2016 3:03 pm

Mitch - That's great. Thanks! Now I'm resolved to find all these.

Vocalion VL-73922 San Antonio Rose: San Antonio Rose; Black And Blue Rag*; My Shoes Keep Walking Back To You**; Four Or Five Times; Roll Your Own; New Dream Eyed Waltz**; Donâ€™t Let The Deal Go Down; Iâ€™ll Allways Be In Love With You; Hoopaw Rag**, Carnations For The Memory** - 71 (*previously unissued, **previously unissued on album, reissued on Coral CB-20109)

"Hooplaw Rag"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAR1hfBs2ws

"Cornball Rag"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8y4-hKJaU8

"Texas Two Step"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfhSVypDExE

Rich Sullivan · Post by **Rich Sullivan** » 8 Mar 2016 4:15 pm

Robert,

All of the Wills recordings with Vance from the two sessions (January 24-25, 1955) are included in the same order you listed on Discs 4 and 5 of the Bear Family boxed set - Faded Love 1947-1973. It is big bucks - Amazon has it listed at $244.66, but it does include 13 CD's, 1 DVD, and a 136 page hardcover book. Definitely Bear Family quality. Vance's playing is really interesting, very transitional. On some of the songs he is getting a sound very similar to Bud Isaacs style. I also remember reading that his solo on Boston Fancy was one of Buddy Emmons' favorite steel recordings.

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 8 Mar 2016 8:10 pm

You might enjoy this rare live recording of Jimmie and Vance and the Cherokees playing Speedy and Jimmy Bryant's "The Night Rider."

https://youtu.be/oUsxKt5HoHE

Bruce Bouton · Post by **Bruce Bouton** » 11 Mar 2016 9:15 pm

Where can I buy this record?

Roger Shackelton · Post by **Roger Shackelton** » 11 Mar 2016 9:54 pm

The CD is available on the Amazon website. There are 19 tunes on this CD.

Roger

Len Ryder · Post by **Len Ryder** » 12 Mar 2016 8:57 am

I have a copy of Vance's pedal set up when he was working in Cal. Nineteen pedals and one knee. Talk about confusing to the normal Picker ! ! !

Gary Walker · Post by **Gary Walker** » 13 Mar 2016 4:30 pm

In Oct of 1960 after attending a Gretsch Guitar presentation of Chet Atkin with Junior Husky at the St Francis Hotel in San Francisco, Gene Breeden, Norm Hamlet, Jerry Rowe and myself accompanied Vance to the club where Vance was playing in Brisbane and was treated to some incredible solo playing by Vance. He was quite a player, especially in that time period of the pedal steel making inroads into music. Sure would've been nice to have a camcorder in those days gone by forever.

chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 17 Mar 2016 6:49 pm

Back in March 1997, the Radio Ranch Straight Shooters were doing a set at Demarco's 23 Club and I was setting up and picking around. There was an older gentleman standing in front and watching me. When I stopped, he introduced himself and it was Vance Terry. Whoa, now I have to play in front of one of my heroes. He was very fun to talk to and he autographed my guitar.

Geoff Cline · Post by **Geoff Cline** » 18 Mar 2016 2:53 pm

Very cool Chas! Vance is a "True North" player to me...awe inspiring.

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 1 May 2016 8:27 pm

Hi, Jay, Please check your Forum PMs and Forum email. Thanks, steve takacs

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 3 May 2016 8:43 pm

i met vance a couple years before he died, sadly.
we shared a stage at some outdoor festivals . he was quiet and shy and didn't seem to know what a legend he was. i was in awe of him. i later saw a slightly funnier side of him.

one day he asked me if i'd show him some modern e9 stuff and i just hemmed and hawed and said i didn't know if i could help him. i was very intimidated.
i wish i'd had more confidence at the time.
the circumstanes of his death were very sad.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 3 May 2016 8:51 pm

tiny moore, the hottest swing player ever on the 5 string bigsby mando, always said vance was his favorite steel player.
those guys were monsters!

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 4 May 2016 4:21 am

Chris, Tiny's solos were frequently more exciting than anyone else on the bandstand, at least on the stuff i've heard.

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