C6th setup question?

Roy McKinney · Post by **Roy McKinney** » 27 Apr 2004 4:52 am

What is the "most common" standard, or universal pedal setup for the C6th? I use a G first string and raise it to a G# with pedal 5. I think the rest of my pedals are fairly standard setup. I only have 3 KL on C6th and currently have LKL set to raise the 3 & 7 string C's to C# which I like very well. My RKL raises the 4 A to a Bb and the RKR drops the 3 C to B. I am adding a LKR and intend to drop the 5 G to F and raise the 10 C to D. Question is what is "kinda" accepted as a standard setup and on what KL?
Thanks

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 27 Apr 2004 6:28 am

Roy, yours is pretty standard. The following is what many have, who use 4 knee levers with the G on top:

<pre>

4 5 6 7 8 LKL LKR RKL RKR

G G#
E F
C D B C#
A B B Ab Bb
G F#
E Eb
C C# C#
A B
F F# E
C D A
</pre>

Note: Some reverse the changes on RKL and RKR. A fifth knee lever (LKV) would probably lower 5 a whole tone. That seems to be a standard emerging scenario.

If you are wondering why some do not change the octaves (also) on LKL and LKR, I will quote Buddy Emmons, "It messes up the chord combinations".

I have to agree. This is due to the fact, that the C6 neck is pretty much a "dissonant" neck. And it seems that proficient players want as many dissonant combinations as possible.

carl

Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 27 Apr 2004 8:24 am

Roy...I like the G to F and C to D idea!
The A to Ab change is very cool as well. So many changes, so few knees.

Bob Watson · Post by **Bob Watson** » 27 Apr 2004 12:53 pm

I know that on some double necks, the RKL that lowers the third string from a C to a B is also the same knee lever that lowers the E's on the E9 neck. Do the other knee levers included in the copedant above also work on the E9 neck or are they separate knee levers that work only on the C6 neck?

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 27 Apr 2004 1:47 pm

Hi Bob, I think on most D10 guitars both of the knee levers on the right leg tend to work on both necks -- the rest tend to be neck specific!

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 27 Apr 2004 2:13 pm

You are correct Paddy

Roy McKinney · Post by **Roy McKinney** » 27 Apr 2004 2:37 pm

Yes, the RKL changes the 1 string F# to G and the 6 string G# to F#. The RKR changes the 2 and 9 string to C#

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 27 Apr 2004 5:10 pm

If I had only one lever to add to this I would raise the 6ths +1
and drop the 3rds -1, for a minor 7 chord.
and use it for relative minors of major chord positions.

I have this split on two of 5 levers now,
I use it tons and the C-C# lever

Never really used the B's 4th pedal much[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 27 April 2004 at 06:10 PM.]