6-string pedal steel

Markku Koskinen · Post by **Markku Koskinen** » 14 Feb 2004 12:25 am

I'm starting the pedal steel. Anyway I'd like to have a pedal steel that is close to a standard 6-string guitar, but mechanically more simple than pedal steel's lower/raiser -system. I have designed a construction to have the raiser or the lower, but not both - for every string. What do you recommend for basic tunig and what string to raise and what to lower? And - is there any sense to go on this way?

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 14 Feb 2004 1:01 am

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And now all you other guys figure that one out!!

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 14 Feb 2004 5:42 am

No problem.....For a good time call 050-3574979. Just bring your own enema![This message was edited by HowardR on 14 February 2004 at 09:31 AM.]

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 14 Feb 2004 11:36 am

Ah a challenge! You didn't say if a string could have multiple raises, so I'll assume it can't.
<pre> k p1 p2 k
E +F
B +C#
G# +A
E +F
D -C#
B -A </pre>If you can put a half-stop on the F knee lever, to allow it to be raised further to F#, that would be good.

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 14 Feb 2004 11:40 am

From the C6th side: <pre> k p1 p2 p3 k
E +F
C -B
A +B
G -F#
E -Eb
C +C# </pre>

Markku Koskinen · Post by **Markku Koskinen** » 14 Feb 2004 12:40 pm

Thank you Jussi, Howard and especially Bobby. This Bobbys firs one seems to be something I'm looking for. Its quite near the open E, which is familiar to every guitar player.

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 15 Feb 2004 11:52 am

Pretty good Howard

ya almost nailed it!![This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 15 February 2004 at 11:54 AM.]

Bengt Erlandsen · Post by **Bengt Erlandsen** » 16 Feb 2004 3:44 am

A little bit of bob's tuning idea but with a twist on the pedals/levers.

<pre>

LKL P1 P2 RKR
E +F
B -Bb
G# -G
E +F
C# +D
B -Bb
</pre>

The changes might look weird but they all complement each other and have to be where they are for combinational reasons since all might be used at the same time.

<pre>
LKL P1 P2 P3 RKR
E +F
C +D
A +B
G -F#
E -Eb
C +C#
</pre>

More or less the same C6 rearranged for some special combinations.

Bengt Erlandsen
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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 16 Feb 2004 11:54 am

I would only change b0bby's suggestion by lowering the E's on E9th instead of raising them. I could live with that on a S-6 or D-6 If I had to. In fact I believe it would be a great PSG for playing strictly Hawaiian type music.

More I think about it, the more I might just build one. Limiting to just raise or just lower on a given string, makes the changer very easy to build.

Thanks

carl

A Better Way[This message was edited by C Dixon on 16 February 2004 at 02:47 PM.]

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 16 Feb 2004 2:39 pm

I have an old 6 string Multi-Kord that I'd sometimes tune as such:
....p1....p2....p3....p4

G.........+G#
E................+F
C......................++D
A..++B...............++B
G.........-F#
E................-Eb

It's just an abreviated version of a Jimmy Day tuning. It's pretty good for blues and swing. [This message was edited by Fred Glave on 16 February 2004 at 02:45 PM.][This message was edited by Fred Glave on 16 February 2004 at 02:49 PM.]