Redeemer Buffer

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 3 Mar 2015 4:26 pm

Just stumbled upon this:
https://soundcloud.com/creationaudiolabs/redeemer-steel

Len Amaral · Post by **Len Amaral** » 4 Mar 2015 7:52 am

I like the steel sample either way but buffeted, it adds dimension to the sound. Doesn't using one Boss pedal buffer in the same way so you can use a longer cord without signal loss?

Tom Wolverton · Post by **Tom Wolverton** » 4 Mar 2015 9:53 am

Couldn't you get this same thing with the Lil Izzy or Freeloader?

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 4 Mar 2015 10:16 am

The buffer amp in this example sounds way too thin for my taste. I think maybe he plugged in the buffer without changing the EQ.

His example of unbuffered sound could use some help. It sounds like the pickup is loaded by a long cable with high capacitance, or he's plugged into a lo-Z input. Buffer amps are OK, but still I think it could be salvaged with an amp modeler.

Dan Galysh · Post by **Dan Galysh** » 4 Mar 2015 10:33 am

I used a Redeemer for a few weeks. After initially perking my ears, I found it definitely thins your tone. I do like the Creation Audio Labs MK.4.23 clean boost pedal MUCH better.

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 4 Mar 2015 1:46 pm

I get the impression that the Redeemer buffer has WAY too high an input impedance for a steel guitar pickup. Too high an impedance will give a very thin and glassy tone. In my years of polling, it seems that the impedance loads that steel players most prefer are in the 150k to 700k Ohm range. The Redeemer, from what they describe, may be WAY above 1Meg. That works ok on a guitar with volume and tone pots to help load down the pickups a bit, but on a naked steel guitar pickup, that can bring out too much of the unwanted ultra-highs and make the tone sound too thin and harsh.

Brad

Craig Baker · Post by **Craig Baker** » 4 Mar 2015 5:57 pm

Tom Wolverton axed:
"Couldn't you get this same thing with the Lil Izzy or Freeloader?"

I hope not. I'm with Brad, I think you'd have to go pretty far out of your way to get a Freeloader or a Li'l Izzy to sound like that.

All the best,

Craig Baker 706-485-8792

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Eatonton, GA 31024

Scott Duckworth · Post by **Scott Duckworth** » 5 Mar 2015 4:02 am

I think I'll stick with my Lil Izzy...

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 7 Mar 2015 1:48 pm

...kinda brightens up and more presence

Uhh...yeah. That's why my amp has a presence control and a bright switch.