if you have to pick another steel

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 8 Jun 2003 3:36 pm

what would be your first pic if you had an old D-10 that become too heavy for you and want a new modern and light weight steel???GFI?Carter?something else?And why?

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Ricky Littleton · Post by **Ricky Littleton** » 8 Jun 2003 3:53 pm

I'd pick a Sierra 12-14 string. I'm becoming more and more interested in extended tunings and seems like the sky would be the limit on one of these beasts. Plus it's probably be a tad lighter than the twin.

Ricky

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chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 8 Jun 2003 4:08 pm

Excel keyless 12, I may get one anyway.

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 8 Jun 2003 4:15 pm

Having said that my "traditional" D-10 is ok weight wise & am very happy with it, if I really had to go lighter, it would be GFI. Tone's great (heard it), I like the looks, price is right. And yes, MUCH lighter.

Emmett Roch · Post by **Emmett Roch** » 8 Jun 2003 4:31 pm

My GFI S-12 weighs 59 lbs (in the case), and I've often reminded myself on those loooong walks through airports that it could be a lot worse. The new MSA is lighter, but my GFI is already paid for.

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Del Rangel · Post by **Del Rangel** » 8 Jun 2003 4:36 pm

The Jade Green GFI on Bobby's site if I were going to do a D-10. (droooollllll) I received my new GFI SD-12 Ultra Keyless a couple of months ago and am very pleased myself at this point. LIGHT WEIGHT! Solidly built, easy to change the setup. Only thing I think I will do is try a Jerry Wallace Truetone singlecoil pup.

Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 8 Jun 2003 5:02 pm

If this is a money is no objective thing!!!

SD12...5+5 Zum,If I could'nt my friend Chas.Reece to built me one of his CLRs(he did the major design/assembly on the one I have now).

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LARRY COLE · Post by **LARRY COLE** » 8 Jun 2003 6:04 pm

My Sho-Bud Pro-1 S-10 got to heavey so I bought a Williams S-12 Universal. Great steel. Light. Plays, looks, and sounds great, and you can get the lacquer finish for the same price as mica. They are some beautiful guitars too. Greg Zimmer has two of them.

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Eddie Malray · Post by **Eddie Malray** » 8 Jun 2003 6:36 pm

Hey Everyone!----Saturday night I had the opertunity to hear six different pro players on six different steels. They were some of the most popular brands being played today. To my surprise, the GFI had the best tone of them all. I heard it on the GOO behind Charlie Pride.-----Eddie

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 8 Jun 2003 7:10 pm

New and modern?

You need to try the new MSA Millenium. If it got any lighter, you'd have to find an anchor to hold it down.

imho

Lem Smith · Post by **Lem Smith** » 8 Jun 2003 7:43 pm

Carter. Tommy White sold me on what a fine guitar, and fine sounding guitar it is. Light weight, good sounding, and priced right.

Lem

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 8 Jun 2003 7:52 pm

The Jade Green GFI on Bobby's site if I were going to do a D-10. (droooollllll)

Del,you are so right,,that is a beauty of a GFI on Bobbe's site,,Im suprised it's not sold.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 8 Jun 2003 9:47 pm

The Williams is another excellent lightweight steel.

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Scott Henderson · Post by **Scott Henderson** » 8 Jun 2003 10:44 pm

Don't rule out a universal 12...there lighter of course and it's not as scarey as one thinks to convert from a D-10 and still be able to play the swing stuff. I post universal tab on my web site if you're interested in seeing how it works...(scottyhenderson.com)I did just the opposite. I started on the uni-12 played it for eleven years and then went to a double ten. I switched because I wanted to diversify myself that much more.For good lightweight guitars I suggest carter and mullen.

Dekley U-12
JCH D-10
sessoin 500
profex
whatelse do you need!!!

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David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 9 Jun 2003 1:24 am

14 string MSA Millineum 8+8

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 9 Jun 2003 6:25 am

On a budget: GFI S12U 8+8, black with candy-color blue trim.

Sky's the limit: MSA Millenium S12 U 8+8, black or red with chrome trim.

Alternates to consider as a second: Mullins, Williams, Zum, Fessenden, Excel; one of these in a dark natural lacquer finish.

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 9 Jun 2003 7:11 am

You only have to carry it for 20 to 40 seconds, then you listen to it and play it all night. I won't sacrifice tone for thirty seconds of a slightly heavier guitar when I can also trade my 25 pound case for 9 pound case. This is a ridiculous question!
My loaded P-P d-10 weighs less in the case than any cuitar mentioned weighs in it's factory case. My case weighs 9 pounds, 14 years old and has flown airlines all over the world. NINE POUNDS! What does your case weigh?

Give up a great guitar to save 5 lbs?
I don't think so buckeroos. I don't care how old and weak I get. Things get to bad, I'll marry another 20 year old girl!!
[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 09 June 2003 at 08:43 AM.]

Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 9 Jun 2003 7:25 am

...you do mean a 20 year old girl, right?...

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 9 Jun 2003 7:46 am

Yes Pat, now where have you been?

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 9 Jun 2003 8:06 am

My case weighs 9 pounds, 14 years old and has flown airlines all over the world.

Bobbe, what are you using for a case, and who makes it?

John Sluszny · Post by **John Sluszny** » 9 Jun 2003 8:19 am

Yes Bobbe,Im curious too!
js

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 9 Jun 2003 8:41 am

Fiberboard, like drum cases? Looked like a couple of trap cases to me when I saw them, back when Hector was a pup.
Ok, ok, I drifted. Sorry.
I still say GFI.[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 09 June 2003 at 09:48 AM.]

Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 9 Jun 2003 8:42 am

...Bobbe, I just popped in on a break from my forum sabatical, off on a quest for one of those 20-year-olds...I've had dozens of offers, too, but I also decided to hold out for a girl...

...and while I'm here, what about those light weight cases? One or two piece?..and flying them in your own plane doesn't count..

..oh, and to keep it on topic, if I had one of those light weight cases, I'd put my p/p in it...and if I could afford a second guitar, GFI sounds interesting...[This message was edited by Pat Burns on 09 June 2003 at 09:45 AM.]

Chris Forbes · Post by **Chris Forbes** » 9 Jun 2003 12:45 pm

I vote to stay with my old heavy guitar [This message was edited by Chris Forbes on 09 June 2003 at 01:48 PM.]

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 14 Jun 2003 1:20 pm

GFI does seem to have a following here,so due to my unpredictabe expences with buying a house I`m trading my `74 Emmons for a GFI but there is no doubt in my mind that I WILL buy another p/p Emmons as soon as I recover financialy.Would I put my Emmons in the 9 pound case???Hmmm,don`t think so.I`ll rather sufer and cary a havier load then risk my guitar.I`m hoping to get one of Bobbe`s special push pulls,but they are up in $6000 so it will take a few months to get there.But I`ll get it adventualy.

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