Fired for the first time in 45 Years....

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Fired for the first time in 45 Years....

Post by Greg Johnson »

Well I guess it had to happen sooner or later. I was fired from a local 'Honky Tonk Band'. Why... this is the best part. Played at a local bar in Greencastle PA. The owner during the break told the Singer and Bass player (Married couple who ran the band) how much he loved the steel guitar. He went so far in saying without the steel they wouldn't have a act.

Well next morning I got the call and the axe. LOL talk about inflated ego's. P.S. they are now playing 3 piece without a steel LOL
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Post by Donny Hinson »

Bump in the road...forget it and move on. :\
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Post by Bill Sinclair »

At least it sounds like you've got a good place to gig with your next band. Let me know when that happens and I'll head up the road to hear you!
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Post by John De Maille »

Yup, sounds like you've got your foot in the door for your new band. Do it quick and screw those a-holes.
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Post by Dick Wood »

I got fired once and they hired me back because I turned out to be better than the guy they hired...lol
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Post by Barry Blackwood »

The club owner did you a favor by separating you from Mr. and Mrs. Ego.
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Post by Don R Brown »

I'd be tempted to stop by that bar some slow day and just enjoy a beer. Maybe not volunteer anything, but when the owner brings up the band it would only be honesty to explain you were let go, and when he asks why, to tell him.

I know, I know, rise above it and move on. But you must admit it would at least cross your mind to do it even if you don't actually follow through.
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Post by David Mason »

It would be kind of neat to have a job where a lot of people came to hear you play whatever you felt like on your steel guitar. In fact, it would be really neat. Lemme know.... :lol:
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Post by Greg Cutshaw »

I spent some time, many trips, in Greencastle,PA a few years ago. What a nice area with a lot great things nearby. Hang in there and remember you could be stuck up here in the frozen Tundra of Corry, PA!
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Post by Butch Mullen »

Back in the '60's I got fired from my bass playing job and got replaced by the girl singer. But what really hurt, my bossman at the trucking co. said I could be replaced by a talking dog!!!
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Post by Don Poland »

I'd be curious to know if the bar owner hires them back for another gig, or boots them. LOL
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Post by Chris Brooks »

In Albuquerque in the 70s I was fired because I was "too good" (Me?!? I don't think so).

Lead singer hired the previous steeler back because he wasn't as "good" and so would never leave the gig.

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Post by Lane Gray »

Your former bosses are dumbasses. Surrounding yourself with better players doesn't make you look worse, it makes you look BETTER.
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Post by Craig A Davidson »

Greg I feel your pain as it just happened to me a month or so ago. I was told I wasn't rock and roll enough. Shoot I didn't know I had to be to play in a country band.
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Post by Greg Johnson »

Lane, your right, musicians always play up to good musicians. That is why I signed on for the summer with a new Nashville act that is going to be working the east coast this summer, and he still likes Allan Jackson more than Jason Aldean :) Should be fun.

Don P: they played there yesterday without a steel, and from the rumors they weren't asked back. :) I always remember that God has a sense of humor... :)
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Post by Tom Wolverton »

The sentence "married couple who ran the band" was the bright red light for me. Kiss of death.
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Post by John Peay »

Chris Brooks wrote:Lead singer hired the previous steeler back because he wasn't as "good" and so would never leave the gig.
The "married couple who ran the band" probably chose their spouses using the same logic!
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Post by David Cubbedge »

Image

when I saw "married couple running the band", this is what I first thought of...
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LMAO!!!>...I had EXACTLY the same image!!!>..
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Post by Jack Aldrich »

My firing from a band was a real boon - it headed me into Hawaiian and non-pedal steel. I was working for a singer who is a compulsive/obsessive. He got on my case for not playing intros EXACTLY like the record. I learned the intro for Jim Ed Brown's "Pop A Top". When we rehearsed it next, I played the intro, and he said "That's not right". I had him play the record, and he admitted that I'd played it "correctly". That did it; I said "Look, if you don't like what I'm doing, fire me.", and he did. I was complaining to a buddy about it, and he said "a friend of mine is in town, and I'm going to his cousin's for a kanekapila. Would you like to come along?" He friend was Ledward Kaapana. I never looked back, and I've had more fun playing Hawaiian than country. I get a couple of pedal steel gigs a year, but I play regularly with local (and islander) Hawaiian groups.
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Post by Tom Wolverton »

Man, you guys are cracking me up.

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Post by Joey Ace »

the only shocking remark is:
the first time in 45 Years....
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Post by Greg Johnson »

Joey,

I have been extremely fortunate in that regard...
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Post by Bob Hoffnar »

I have lost gigs because:

A steel player was not in the budget

I wouldn't commit and go to unpaid rehearsals

My musical voice no longer suits the direction the band is going.

I couldn't keep up musically ( I'm not so great at swing steel guitar jazz stuff)


And all sorts of other reasons. My reaction to losing a gig is to find a weakness that I was not aware of and practice until it is a strength or work on something that is more interesting.

I have never been fired because somebody else is a jerk.
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Post by Peter Freiberger »

Getting fired frequently helped build my resume.