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Tony Williamson
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steel guitar bias

Post by Tony Williamson »

I'm mixing my version of Borrowed Angel where I'm playing all the instruments and singing all the parts. I find it really hard to cut the steel down like on a normal song. I want to hear it! But I get advice from other musicians and they keep wanting to drop it down...down...down...I hate it...I record flat and add a tinge of cathedral reverb with a quick delay on my korg 3200.
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Nic du Toit
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Post by Nic du Toit »

Is there a question in there somewhere?..... Or are you just informing us.
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Post by Dennis Detweiler »

Buddy used to distribute business cards that said, "Turn the @#$%^ steel guitar up!" I agree.
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Post by Joe Gall »

It's your song, your mix, your call. Where's the problem? LOL
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Dom Franco
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Post by Dom Franco »

It's normal for any musician, (steel player, Guitarist, drummer, bassist etc.)to want to hear more of his instrument in the mix. I tend to mix the the steel way up too high. Whenever I play a studio gig, I am usually dis-appointed in the final mix. (The steel is often way in the background, and they sometimes take my part out on a verse or so to let keys or armpit guitar do the fills)

It really takes practice and a good set of ears to mix everything perfectly, and then it's all subjective anyway. Someone will always want to hear something louder or softer!

JMHO
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Post by Richard Sinkler »

Honestly, I love the steel guitar up front and center, but that is because I AM a steel guitar player. For the average listener, that may not be the best strategy for a final mix. Try to make the mix the best for ALL listeners. The vocals are #1, the rhythm section is #2, and lead/fill instruments come in last. That is how I hear all of the top pro recordings.
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Post by Dom Franco »

Richard I would agree mostly except that the lead and fill instruments become #1 temporarily whenever the vocal phrase ends and it's time for the signature licks at the intro, solo and ending...
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Post by Richard Sinkler »

Yes Dom, but that is only very temporary, and mainly to another musician. The average listener wouldn't know the difference.
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Post by Jack Stoner »

My friend, Jimmy Peppers, who did some Nashville major label producing including Mel Street's last Album (using Lloyd Green on steel) told me legendary producer Billy Sherill's way "turn the lead instrument up on the break".