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Don Brown, Sr. · Post by **Don Brown, Sr.** » 12 Jan 2012 11:47 am

I'm wondering just how many are reading this, that has purchased "Band in the box" also known as (BIAB) and after getting it, feels it's seemingly too complicated, and so it sits on the back burner, and isn't being used?

Well, if that is the case, then read on, your worries are over. I copied the next section from the BIAB topic of Mr. Rick Campbell, and as many of you know, he was selling his DVD's on how to use BIAB. However, I (as many others have, I'm sure) had seen so many instructions on youtube, as well as elsewhere and the instructors went so fast, that by the time they'd be clicking on this and that, and not saying exactly what they'd clicked on, and the next thing a box would come up, etc, etc, etc., that most would simply say, "Wow! Too complicated" and gave up before ever getting started.

It wasn't until lately that I contacted Rick to see about getting a copy of his DVD. Just to see if I could possibly learn how to use it. Well, the name of the DVD couldn't have been any better. "Band in the box Made Easy".

Below is a post from Rick, in the BIAB section of the forum:

The BIAB Made Easy DVD is no longer for sale. All I wanted to do was recover the expenses of producing it, and thanks to many of you, I was able to do this. I have decided to discontinue selling it and concentrate on other things.

The good news is that I have decided to make it public domain. Those of you that want the DVD, just ask someone to copy it for you. Whatever you work out with them for postage, etc... is between you and them, but please don't charge them for the DVD itself. If I can give it away, so can you.

This is my Christmas present to all of you guys. All I ask is if you like the DVD and it helps you with BIAB, please post some positive comments here for others to see.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to each of you and your loved ones.

Rick sent me out a copy, and I want to say, it's not just a another DVD, Rick is a great instructor, and gives you exactly what you need to get you up and running. And, he tells you ONLY what you NEED to know to have your copy of BIAB up and working, for making tracks to practice with, or to record with, etc.

The thing I really like about Rick's instruction, is that he does it in a very logical Step by Step, approach from beginning to end. From loading it on, and setting it up with only enough of what you DO Need to know, without weeding through all of the (too numerous to mention) other things that BIAB can and will do, that you DON'T need to know, in order to make backing tracks.

And, I might also add, that Rick is a great instructor, and just maybe he could be talked into doing more instruction work on BIAB?????? Maybe not, but you can be sure, it would be top of the line.

So do yourselves a favor, and if you don't have a copy of his DVD, and you're not able to use your copy of BIAB, then by all means, get it any way you can, because it WILL get you up and running your copy of BIAB.

Asking B0b if you'll be so kind as to leave this posted here for others coming along who would like to be using their BIAB too.

Rick, Thanks again, a whole bunch, for the excellent DVD.

Wishing everyone here a great New Year.........

Brendan Mitchell · Post by **Brendan Mitchell** » 12 Jan 2012 12:44 pm

I am one of the ones who found BIAB too complicated .
If anyone can do a copy of this for me I would love to try it out .

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 12 Jan 2012 12:46 pm

Those of you that want the DVD, just ask someone to copy it for you. Whatever you work out with them for postage, etc...

OK Don can you send me a copy. I'll pay shipping and handling. Thanks Stuart

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 12 Jan 2012 12:48 pm

i've never tried biab....

lmbh

Jay Fagerlie · Post by **Jay Fagerlie** » 12 Jan 2012 2:11 pm

If someone wants to send it to me I will convert it for download and host it for all who want to download it.

Jay

Lynn Fargo · Post by **Lynn Fargo** » 12 Jan 2012 2:23 pm

I would be very interested in receiving a copy. Please let me know how I can get one.
Thanks,
Lynn

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 12 Jan 2012 3:04 pm

I have a copy of Ricks CD. As for me it doesn't tell you anything .

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 12 Jan 2012 4:14 pm

I really don't think the new versions of BIAB are that complicated. Of Course I'm using the Band-in-a-Box Audiophile. I just plug it in to the usb port and get at it. I can't imagine life without BIAB.
My only problem has been my crappy sound cards.
It wouldn't hurt to have a CD to see if there are a few things you could do much easier.

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 12 Jan 2012 4:19 pm

Jay Fagerlie wrote:If someone wants to send it to me I will convert it for download and host it for all who want to download it.

Jay

Great idea someone send it to Jay and then I'll just download it from there. Thanks

Larry Baker · Post by **Larry Baker** » 12 Jan 2012 4:41 pm

I would also like a copy of the DVD of Rick's biab instructions. Will pay whatever!!! Thanks, Larry

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 12 Jan 2012 7:01 pm

I've had BIAB for several years now and have yet to make my first accompaniment.

I purchased the instructional DVD and found it also, to be too complicated for my aging mind.

I regret this very much. The program was great but I just have difficulty in digesting all of the new info' I guess.

Andy Jones · Post by **Andy Jones** » 12 Jan 2012 7:50 pm

I,too,have a BIAB(2007 edition).When I opened the box and saw the instruction manual,I figured life was too short to learn to use the thing.I'm trying to learn steel guitar;not spend most of my time learning to use BIAB.Maybe this DVD is for me.

Jim Priebe · Post by **Jim Priebe** » 12 Jan 2012 8:53 pm

As with all software the most comforting thing about using packages is familiarity (this is coming
from an IT tech and support person - me) with the software and this takes time and patience.
Ah! Then the programmers go and change things inthe new version - in the name of progress - progress??

There are a few points here that strike me as important with BIAB though:
If you know the difference between a bar of music and the thing you lean on and slurp then that helps.
It helps if you know what a key signature is and so on.
In other words even a basic knowledge of written music makes learning BIAB a lot easier.

To navigate through the sofware, which is based mainly on drop down menus is fairly standard software
procedure. The book/manual that come with it is very comprehensive, however some people will no
doubt have problems with the terminology used (what each process or action is called) but that is common
with all software.

I have found the best way to start users off on this is to go through a blow by blow list of how do make
a very simple version of say Mansion on the Hill in the key of C at an easy moderato speed (eg. 100).
Once this is done the user can then explore the many options (if they want to) as these are where things
get more complicated but once again a bit of familiarity and confidence will help a lot.
Real time DVD instructions or those on YouTube are often difficult to follow - I had problems the first time I watched a Micky Adams instruction - now I don't as I am familiar with his method. Using vertical shots of the fretboard, as the player sees it, are so much better to understand than front on ones - it's a player familiar sight.

I am sure there are some forum members that will help learners if they contact them - most of us have a listed email address if you choose to not have it on the forum. May be best to look in the BIAB section for this sort of info too.

priebs

Roger Francis · Post by **Roger Francis** » 13 Jan 2012 6:55 am

I'de like a copy too!!!! sounds good

Don Brown, Sr. · Post by **Don Brown, Sr.** » 13 Jan 2012 11:15 pm

I find it hard to believe, that anyone could have a copy of Rick's DVD, and say it did nothing for them in getting them up and running, and not only running, but making their (his/her) own backing track/s.

I'm 70 years old, and watched Rick as he goes through it, a total of three times. Took a few notes down on paper, to help the old memory, and bingo. Started making tracks.

Bill (M), Did you possibly mean that you were already capable of making your own tracks, so therefore you didn't need it? The reason for (possibly) stating it did nothing for you?

Ray (M), When you said you purchased the instructional DVD, did you mean Rick's? Or one from a different source?

I'm asking the above questions, only because I absolutely and positively, can't see how anyone, who at least knows basic chord progression, (such as even C, F, & G7 or the number system, 1 4 & 5, etc.,) wouldn't get enough out of it to be making his/her own tracks. I mean, Rick goes slow and is very exquisite on what he does at every step of the way. And starts out making a familiar tune's track, then adds on to it, in showing how to add an intro, how to add an ending, and much, much more.

I'm getting nothing at all out of posting this, and Rick sure isn't, since he's now made it free to everyone. So my intentions are only to help someone else out who (like me) had money invested into BIAB, but didn't really know how to use it.

I started out with Version 2011 the Everything Package on a hard drive. Then, 2011.5 came out I again, bought the Everything Package on another hard drive, and this past Dec, I again bought the 2012 Everything Package on another hard drive. So that's quite a chuck of change for not knowing how to use it.

Plus, I was like another person who stated that he didn't want to spend all his time trying to learn how to use BIAB, as his interest was in playing the steel. Well, so is mine, but I feel this way about it. It's much nicer being able to make your own tracks, because doing it that way, you make the track for the way YOU PLAY the tune, which can vary to any number of degrees, from how someone else does it. In music, there is no cemented in stone set standard.

I also want to thank Jay Fagerlie and the folks who've stepped up to help get Rick's DVD out to those who would like a free copy of it, or to arrange a download of it, etc.

I'm sorry, but at this time, it's nearly impossible for me to get one to each of the folks who would like a copy.

Jay if you can't get a copy from anyone else, in order to convert for a download, let me know and I'll see what I can do to get you one...... Don

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 14 Jan 2012 4:10 am

Lynn Fargo wrote:I would be very interested in receiving a copy. Please let me know how I can get one.
Thanks,
Lynn

Me too.

Ron Brennan · Post by **Ron Brennan** » 14 Jan 2012 6:56 am

Like Mike and others,

ME TOO!!!!........

TX

Rgds,

Ron

Ronnie Boettcher · Post by **Ronnie Boettcher** » 14 Jan 2012 7:06 am

Me too!!! I have BIAB on my puter now, and it just sits there. I am very knowledgable in music, and suck at computer gibberish. Suck at English too. I'd be thrilled to see what our friend Rick has done to help us. Count me in on any way I can get a copy, or download it. Thanks again Rick.

George Brown · Post by **George Brown** » 14 Jan 2012 1:53 pm

I too, would love to get a copy. I don't have, and have never tried BIAB....Sometimes I have a Terrible time trying to find a track for a certain song that I want to play.. BIAB should solve that...Any info on getting one will be Greatly Appreciated...
George...

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 15 Jan 2012 8:20 am

This is a great offer Don. If it's possible, I'd love a copy also.
Thanks!

Papa Joe Pollick · Post by **Papa Joe Pollick** » 15 Jan 2012 10:02 am

George Brown wrote:I too, would love to get a copy. I don't have, and have never tried BIAB....Sometimes I have a Terrible time trying to find a track for a certain song that I want to play.. BIAB should solve that...Any info on getting one will be Greatly Appreciated...
George...

Here's the PG Music site that has it..You can also get it from Big Jim Barron , and Musicians Friend, as well as E-bay..Just be careful on E-Bay..
http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.htm

Don Brown, Sr. · Post by **Don Brown, Sr.** » 15 Jan 2012 1:38 pm

Hi Papa Joe,

I think they are talking about wanting Rick Campbell's "Band In A Box Made Easy" DVD. I don't think they can get that any other way, than to have someone who already has one of his DVD's make a copy for someone else who wants one.

That is, unless I'm totally wrong!

But I am making a few copies as soon as I can for the one's who'd like a copy. Also, the only thing Rick asked was:

The good news is that I have decided to make it public domain. Those of you that want the DVD, just ask someone to copy it for you. Whatever you work out with them for postage, etc... is between you and them, but please don't charge them for the DVD itself. If I can give it away, so can you.

This is my Christmas present to all of you guys. All I ask is if you like the DVD and it helps you with BIAB, please post some positive comments here for others to see.

My thoughts are that Rick is quite a generous man. This DVD is Copyrighted, and Rick had been selling it, until he recovered his cost in making it up. Then for Christmas, Rick made it Public Domain.

That video, tells all about where you can buy "Band in the box" etc., but this DVD Does what it's intended purpose is.

Hope that helps explain it. Although, that would be great if it were on a downloadable site. It's a great DVD, and does do, what it's suppose to!

Sorry for the confusion Papa Joe,

Have a great New Year........... Don

Larry Baker · Post by **Larry Baker** » 15 Jan 2012 1:58 pm

Don, you have started quite a popular post here. Lets just hope that someone will feel sorry for us not so computer savey guys and post Rick's DVD. I will gladly pay any cost involved. Thanks, Larry

Papa Joe Pollick · Post by **Papa Joe Pollick** » 15 Jan 2012 2:30 pm

Don,he already know (by these post) how to get RC's DVD..He was asking how to get BIAB..Reread his post...

Don Brown, Sr. · Post by **Don Brown, Sr.** » 15 Jan 2012 2:31 pm

Hi Larry, I'll do the best I can to get some out ASAP, but I'm feeling it's going to take more than one person making copies.

I know there has got to be many on here that's got one of Rick's DVD's, and hopefully, they will come forward to help get one out to as many people as there are who want one.

So if anyone is willing to make some copies to send out, so that everyone who wants one, gets one, I'll gladly send a couple out. Totally free of charge. That will include the DVD in a new plastic case completely free of charge.

I just want to see that everyone who wants one, can get a copy of it. That's my only concern.

My other concern is that, after getting one, and finding it really did get you up and running, do a short post giving the credit where it's due. And that is to Rick and not me......

Any Volunteers?

Because I know it will take more than I can do, especially in my present condition.......... Don

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I for one, found BIAB to be too complicated!