Modulated Delay Pedal?
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Bob Snelgrove
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Modulated Delay Pedal?
Is there such a beast?
I bought an MXR Carbon Copy hoping I could get delay with modulation but it doesn't sound like what I'm looking for.
Is there, or was there ever a pedal made that does this?
thx
bob
I bought an MXR Carbon Copy hoping I could get delay with modulation but it doesn't sound like what I'm looking for.
Is there, or was there ever a pedal made that does this?
thx
bob
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Very subtle, just for ambience, a "bigger" sound without the swirly chorus sound.Jack Stanton wrote:Bob,
How much (or little) modulation are you looking for?
The deluxe Memory Man has a ton of modulation,but to get a usable chorus you need to set the delay to a very short time.
The Tech 21 D.L.A. Boost Delay has a flutter control to emulate the wobble of a echoplex, pretty well, too.
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bob
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Tried that but should re-visit it.Clete Ritta wrote:I believe there are internal adjustments in the MXR for modulation. You may want to look into that before getting rid of it. Maybe the factory setting is not enough depth or speed for your liking.
Clete
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Bob,
keep in mind that the modulation on the Carbon Copy delay pedal is ONLY modulating the echoes and NOT the dry guitar signal. It can seem pretty subtle since your main signal remains un-modulated. The way to really hear the modulation is to set the delay to ONE repeat only and fully crank the mix knob. Then basically all you're hearing is the echo and then the modulation becomes more apparent.
B
keep in mind that the modulation on the Carbon Copy delay pedal is ONLY modulating the echoes and NOT the dry guitar signal. It can seem pretty subtle since your main signal remains un-modulated. The way to really hear the modulation is to set the delay to ONE repeat only and fully crank the mix knob. Then basically all you're hearing is the echo and then the modulation becomes more apparent.
B
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Ibanez made a series of digital modulation delay pedals in the late 80s and into the 90s, the DML, DML10, and DML20. I bought a DML brand new and it was real workhorse for me, very flexible and great sounding. It did flanging, chorus, slapback, long echo, rotating speaker, and spacey ambient stuff.
Sadly the last time I hooked it up the modulation had stopped working, but that's after 25 years so I can't whine too much.
One Ibanez collectors site lists the DML as "very rare" and "extremely collectible" but eBay shows a couple of DML20 auctions that ended in the past week and they weren't crazy expensive.
Sadly the last time I hooked it up the modulation had stopped working, but that's after 25 years so I can't whine too much.
One Ibanez collectors site lists the DML as "very rare" and "extremely collectible" but eBay shows a couple of DML20 auctions that ended in the past week and they weren't crazy expensive.
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Thanks for the info, so far.
I do have a Yamaha E1005 like JD uses but couldn't get a clean decent sound out of it. That is what I'm shooting for if you've heard JD live; really doesn't sound like he's using effects!
bob
I do have a Yamaha E1005 like JD uses but couldn't get a clean decent sound out of it. That is what I'm shooting for if you've heard JD live; really doesn't sound like he's using effects!
bob
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Boss Digital Dimension DC-3
I just found my old pink DC-3 box. I'll try it this week. What the heck is it?? !!
bob
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Re: Boss Digital Dimension DC-3
You mean, what is it besides pink?Bob Snelgrove wrote:I just found my old pink DC-3 box. I'll try it this week. What the heck is it?? !!
http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/dc3.xml
Give it up for the Google.The DC-3 is the successor of the Dimension C (DC-2) pedal but despite the name similarity, it's quite different. The DC-3 is a digital device while the DC-2 uses analog electronics. The DC-3 doesn't have the presets of the DC-2 but instead you can adjust the sound with the controls common to the other Boss chorus pedals. The chorus produced is a bit different from other chorus units. Most chorus effects adds vibrato as the depth of the effect is increased. The DC-3 does this too, but it adds less vibrato than the others. The sound is often described as dimensional, spacial and natural sounding.
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Bob Snelgrove
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Makes sense since I'm running the mix around 9 o'clock.Brad Sarno wrote:Bob,
keep in mind that the modulation on the Carbon Copy delay pedal is ONLY modulating the echoes and NOT the dry guitar signal. It can seem pretty subtle since your main signal remains un-modulated. The way to really hear the modulation is to set the delay to ONE repeat only and fully crank the mix knob. Then basically all you're hearing is the echo and then the modulation becomes more apparent.
B
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Re: Boss Digital Dimension DC-3
Bob Snelgrove wrote:I just found my old pink DC-3 box. I'll try it this week. What the heck is it?? !!
bob
Bob, the Boss DC3 is a VERY cool and excellent sounding chorus pedal. It's got 4 presets ranging from subtle to strong. I first got turned on to it when I saw Jeff Beck in the '90s. He kicked it on for nearly all of his clean tone work, but would definitely not use it when he kicked on the Rat pedals for distortion. It's just a very cool and now collectible chorus pedal.
Brad
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Re: Boss Digital Dimension DC-3
Actually, that's the DC-2, I believe and I do have one of those too! The DC-3 is:Brad Sarno wrote:Bob Snelgrove wrote:I just found my old pink DC-3 box. I'll try it this week. What the heck is it?? !!
bob
Bob, the Boss DC3 is a VERY cool and excellent sounding chorus pedal. It's got 4 presets ranging from subtle to strong. I first got turned on to it when I saw Jeff Beck in the '90s. He kicked it on for nearly all of his clean tone work, but would definitely not use it when he kicked on the Rat pedals for distortion. It's just a very cool and now collectible chorus pedal.
Brad
http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/dc3.xml
Vince Gill uses one in his live rig.
bob
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Brad Sarno wrote:Ahh yes. I stand corrected. I was thinking of the DC2 purple box with 4 pushbuttons and no knobs.
So is this DC3 just a more tweakable version of the same?
B
"The DC-3 is the successor of the Dimension C (DC-2) pedal but despite the name similarity, it's quite different. The DC-3 is a digital device while the DC-2 uses analog electronics. The DC-3 doesn't have the presets of the DC-2 but instead you can adjust the sound with the controls common to the other Boss chorus pedals. The chorus produced is a bit different from other chorus units. Most chorus effects adds vibrato as the depth of the effect is increased. The DC-3 does this too, but it adds less vibrato than the others. The sound is often described as dimensional, spacial and natural sounding."
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The Electro Harmonix Memory Man series has pedals that allow different levels of control over the modulation of the repeats. The Memory Man Deluxe is the classic example. I had a Strymon El Capistan for a while that had a lot of great features as well. Ended up getting rid of it because I could get what I needed from my Memory Man, but I saw a post recently from Paul Franklin speaking highly of the El Capistan.
http://www.strymon.net/products/elcapistan/
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