INSTRUCTION STRINGS ACCESSORIES MUSIC LINKS
 Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com for Steel Guitars, Strings, Instruction, Music and Accessories 
Forum Index
where steel players meet online
The Steel Guitar Forum

Back from SWSGA - The SGF Store is Now Open
for Business at SteelGuitarShopper.com



Post new topic Tune Of the Week #10 - Lloyd Green
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Tune Of the Week #10 - Lloyd Green
Joe Goldmark


From:
San Francisco, CA 94131
Post Posted 15 Mar 2011 8:44 pm     Reply with quote

Steeler: Lloyd Green
LP Title: The Hit Sounds Of
Tune: Strangers
Label: Little Darlin' LD 4005
Year: 1966





http://www.vinylbeat.com/forum/01Strangers.m4a

This was the album that did it for me. I think it also immensely influenced the steel guitar world of the late '60s and early '70s. It takes no prisoners; just hot picking, perfect intonation, well conceived ideas and lots and lots of gorgeous steel.

This particular tune is buried on side 2, which shows you how good the album is. It features one of my all time favorite C6 breaks, and greatly influenced how I approach that neck (I do say approach, as I'm still miles from getting there!). To think that Lloyd abandoned the C6 neck shortly thereafter speaks to his talent and the confidence he had in the E9 tuning.

Joe


Last edited by Joe Goldmark on 25 Apr 2017 6:46 am; edited 1 time in total
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Tommy White


From:
Louisville, Kentucky
Post Posted 16 Mar 2011 5:39 am     Reply with quote

Amen. Very Happy Thanks for posting it Joe!

Last edited by Tommy White on 16 Mar 2011 5:55 am; edited 1 time in total
View user's profile Send private message
Tommy White


From:
Louisville, Kentucky
Post Posted 16 Mar 2011 5:53 am     Reply with quote

Listening again reminded me, those particular Sho-Bud permanent model guitars allowed and perhaps required the player to use such free artistic expression, because of the way they played and sounded. Lloyd certainly took advantage of that! Just a fabulous example of Lloyd's great playing and the Sho-Bud permanent.
View user's profile Send private message
Cal Sharp


From:
the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
Post Posted 16 Mar 2011 6:20 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
This was the album that did it for me.

Me, too! Lloyd at Steel Guitar Insanity.
_________________
C#
Sound bite
Me: Steel Guitar Madness
Latest ebook: Steel Guitar Insanity
Custom Made Covers for Steel Guitars & Amps at Sharp Covers Nashville
Web Sites for Musicians at Sharp Sites Nashville.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Ken Mizell


From:
Lakeland, Florida, USA
Post Posted 16 Mar 2011 7:11 pm     Reply with quote

I bought that album on a cassette from Tom Bradshaw in the early 80's. Great stuff, through and through. Another good one is Green Country. Of course, all Lloyd Green albums are great. I even like the one with patriotic songs on it, Day of Discovery (I think - I'm too lazy to go to the cabinet and look).
_________________
Steeless
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Frank Estes


From:
Huntsville, AL
Post Posted 17 Mar 2011 3:33 pm     Reply with quote

Great stuff! This is a great service to those of us who never heard those old recordings. There is nothing dated about this recording!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Jon Hyde


From:
Seattle, Washington, USA
Post Posted 17 Mar 2011 3:47 pm     Reply with quote

What a great one, thanks Joe. I have the collection that is out there called “the Little Darlin’ sound of Lloyd Green” and it has all the songs from “The Hit Sounds” EXCEPT this one. I wonder why this one was left off that collection? Weird. It’s great to hear it now.



What are the other C6 Lloyd songs?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Dave Manion


From:
Boise, Idaho, USA
Post Posted 17 Mar 2011 7:02 pm     Reply with quote

I can never get my pedals to do that quick, trill like bounce like LLoyd. One guy I've heard do it is Ricky Davis! Thank you for sharing this, and thanks to Cal Sharp also for your great website! I find it really cool and funny too!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Allen Kentfield


From:
Texas, USA
Post Posted 18 Mar 2011 7:45 pm     Strangers Reply with quote

"Strangers" is (IMOHO) one of the coolest recordings OF ALL TIME. Mister Lloyd Green showing the potential of the NASHVILLE tuning. Three pedals and one knee.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Jim Smith


From:
Valley Ranch (north Irving), TX, USA
Post Posted 18 Mar 2011 9:01 pm     Re: Tune Of the Week #10 - Lloyd Green Reply with quote

Joe Goldmark wrote:
It features one of my all time favorite C6 breaks, and greatly influenced how I approach that neck (I do say approach, as I'm still miles from getting there!). To think that Lloyd abandoned the C6 neck shortly thereafter speaks to his talent and the confidence he had in the E9 tuning.

Joe

I believe this was the first steel guitar instrumental album I ever heard. It took a few years of listening before I could tell that he was on C6 for that last verse before the modulation. Later I found "Day for Decision" in a bargain bin that predates this album and has more C6. I still think this is my favorite C6 ride of Lloyd's though.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bill Cutright


From:
Akron, OH
Post Posted 19 Mar 2011 8:10 am     Reply with quote

Do You think it's because the modern instruments, with their, nearly effortless changers, are the reason you don't hear tone like this (much, nowadays)?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
David Ellison


From:
California, USA
Post Posted 28 Apr 2011 3:38 pm     Reply with quote

>>Do You think it's because the modern instruments, with their, nearly effortless changers, are the reason you don't hear tone like this (much, nowadays)?

I think it's the heavier, humbucking pickups and solid state amps people use. This sounds like single coil pickups through a Fender amp that's slightly breaking up... that's the sound I like best. I think modern steel players play so clean, it's almost sterile sounding. God forbid players get a little hum from the amp. Listen closely, though, to classic country recordings from the '60s and you'll hear the amps buzzing away... doesn't detract at all, IMO.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Tommy White


From:
Louisville, Kentucky
Post Posted 28 Apr 2011 7:48 pm     Reply with quote

Dang,Lloyd's playing just knocks me out. Such authority.
View user's profile Send private message
Jim Robbins


From:
Ontario, Canada
Post Posted 28 Apr 2011 8:15 pm     Reply with quote

It don't mean a thang if it ain't got that twang. Love it.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Cliff Trent


From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post Posted 29 Apr 2011 5:44 am     Feelings Reply with quote

I've been looking for a copy of "Feelings", by Mr. Green for awhile!! Anyone know where it could be found?? Thanks
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
J Fletcher


From:
London,Ont,Canada
Post Posted 29 Apr 2011 10:52 am     Reply with quote

I love this record, and have stolen a lick or two from it. That means about 20% of my licks came from this record! Bought my copy at a used record store in Ann Arbour MI just before, or just after I bought my first steel.
Regarding the "trill" that Dave Manion mentions, I thought that was done with the bar, not the pedals. Seems a few years ago Lloyd Green addressed that point...Jerry
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Kevin Hatton


From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
Post Posted 29 Apr 2011 1:10 pm     Reply with quote

There are certain people who are so creative and original that they are in a class by themselves. Lloyd Green is one of them. He is Lloyd Green.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 29 Apr 2011 1:59 pm     Reply with quote

Quote:
I can never get my pedals to do that quick, trill like bounce like LLoyd.


I think he often does that trill lick without using pedals on different strings than we might assume. Its one of the many reasons his sound is so distinct and strong.

Thanks for the clip Joe !
_________________
Bob
http://liminalsoundseries.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Joe Goldmark


From:
San Francisco, CA 94131
Post Posted 30 Apr 2011 11:31 am     Reply with quote

Unless I'm missing something here, the "trill" lick is just Lloyd being quick and accurate with his second pedal, mostly in the blues positions, two frets down from the open and closed positions, and one fret up from the open position. In some of those positions, using E's down or (as Lloyd did it, the second string), and the first pedal, you can trill with the whole chord.

Joe
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Brint Hannay


From:
Maryland, USA
Post Posted 30 Apr 2011 12:15 pm     Reply with quote

I think J Fletcher is right. I always assumed the trill lick was B pedal, and I recall being amazed not too long ago to learn that it was actually done with the bar.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
CrowBear Schmitt


From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post Posted 30 Apr 2011 12:35 pm     Reply with quote

you've got it here Cliff :
( get'em while you can....)

Lloyd Green Big Steel Guitar 1964
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRND0CDU

Lloyd Green - The Hit Sounds 1965
http://rapidshare.com/files/201601441/Lloyd_Green_-_The_Hit_Sounds.zip

Lloyd Green - Green Country 1966
http://www.laughlast.com/hoosiervinyl/0210/LloydGreen.zip

Lloyd Green - Mr Nashville Sound 1967
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IOXNXM3Y

Lloyd Green - Cool Steel Man 1968
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DNKPNZLB

Lloyd Green And His Steel Guitar 1971
http://rapidshare.com/files/170190656/Lloyd_Green_-_And_His_Steel_Guitar.zip

Lloyd Green - Shades Of Steel 1973
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3A7R8JL

Lloyd Green - Steel Rides 1975
http://rapidshare.com/files/152892078/Lloyd_Green_-_Steel_Rides.zip


Lloyd Green - Ten Shades Of Green 1976
http://rapidshare.com/files/140983441/Lloyd_Green_-_Ten_Shades_Of_Green.zip

Lloyd Green – Feelings 1977
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HSXS189E

Lloyd Green Lloyd S Of Nashville 1979http://rapidshare.com/files/207091950/Lloyd_Green_-_Lloyd_s_Of_Nashville.ziphttp://rapidshare.com/files/395934979/Lloyd_Green_-_Lloyd_s_Of_Nashville.rar

Lloyd Green - Sweet Cheeks
http://rapidshare.com/files/149336294/Lloyd_Green_-_Sweet_Cheeks.zip

Lloyd Green - Stainless Steel
http://rapidshare.com/files/156809129/Lloyd_Green_-_Stainless_Steel.zip
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 30 Apr 2011 1:11 pm     Reply with quote

lloyd showed me one time how he will do the trill lick in a few different ways. He was demonstrating how important it is to be able to play every phrase you know in a few different places on the neck. He said it was a great way to learn the tuning and also get things just right. He played the trill lick using the 1st and 4th strings without any pedals and the difference in sound waa subtle but significant. I was and am astonished by his virtuosity.
_________________
Bob
http://liminalsoundseries.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
James Morehead


From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
Post Posted 1 May 2011 5:00 pm     Reply with quote

The TONE on this album is why I play my fingertip/fender amp. Tone heaven!!
_________________
"Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement"~old cowboy proverb.
shobud@windstream.net
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Kevin Mincke


From:
Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
Post Posted 1 May 2011 5:53 pm     Reply with quote

The Permanents had that sound that I feel caused so many of us to pursue the steel guitar, at least for me. It tone quest can be equated to the old push/pulls of that era. I suppose the old Standel tube amp didn't hurt either Smile
Very cool & thanks for posting some nostalgia!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Steel Guitar Music
Instrumental steel guitar CDs for your permanent collection
www.SteelGuitarMusic.com

BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles
for Band-in-a-Box

by Jim Baron

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support This Forum

advertisement