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Angle Bar Slants Steelin' The Blues Must Play Song <NEW

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Hello from MR.Boards 6 - 21 - 2011

It is good that some of the New To Lap Steel Players are converting to the C6 Tuning. Here are 4 videos of a very important Standard C6 Song "Steelin' The Blues".
This song is Fun to Play - any band can pick up on the chords on the spot -- and -- It works Every Time.

This is one of the "Proud Mary's" of Lap Steel. -- Steelin The Blues is Right up there with Sleepwalk - Steel Guitar Rag and the other greats.

Thank You to the JerryByrd-Fan Club for providing a sound sample of Steelin' The Blues for your reference<<CLICK<< for MP3.

We are playing in open C6th --- the main body of the song is on fret # 1 --
Yes C# -- the reason is it is all about hammer on's - or in this case Roll-On's. ----- Steelin' The Blues Part # 1

The Bridge is F -- Bb -- Eb -- Ab -- MR.Boards Shows you how to play in tune.----- Steelin' The Blues Part # 2


The Bridge is a very common chord progression - learn more classic steel technique.-----Steelin' The Blues Part # 3

The Ending is also a Lap Steel Classic, it works for all sorts of tunes. ----------Steelin' The Blues Part # 4

If you are New To Lap Steel or just want to add an EZ Great Song to your list, Steelin' The Blues is it.
















_________________________________________________ Below are Video from June 11 - 2011_______________________________________________________________________

I have noticed a lot of inquiry as to how to get past just sliding and on to the Angle Bar Slants.

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Segment #1

Here is a Video <Click< that is is about How to Clean Up and Smooth Out Some Slants and Pedal Licks.

There is an EZ Country Lick that works in all sorts of songs included.

It is a lot of work but it is a lot of fun too. This one technique can open up whole new worlds. :D
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Segment # 2 the Reverse Slant

Angle Bar Slants For C6th Tuning -- Part # 2 Video << Click <<
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Segment #3 3 Note Forward Slants

This is the Direct Link to 3 Note Forward Slants <<CLICK<<

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Segment #4 3 Note MINOR Forward Slant

3 Note MINOR Forward Slant << CLICK<<
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Segment #5 3 Note Forward Diminished - Augmented

3 Note Forward Diminished - Augmented

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Segment # 6 Using the Above Ideas to do 1-4-5 Chords for Rhythm and Comps. There are EZ Quick 7ths , and our Lick of the Day.

1-4-5 Chord Comps EZ 7th's and Lick of the Day

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Segment # 7 is about Simple - EZ Speed Picking Licks that can help you get it going beyond straight Bar Playing of Chords. No Angel Bar Slants in this installment. These EyeDeers are a beginning example of the endless use of the Tone Bar to one's advantage. You are encouraged to make up your one style of speed picking.

Simple EZ to learn Speed Picking Patterns in the Key of A major.




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Hi George,

Very nice video ! I like the way you teach. (Clean and Smooth) :D

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Hi George, I miss the hula dancers. Jay Y. By the way, I've been meaning to ask you for years, what are you using for an amp?
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Post by Walter Seaman »

I found several things really interesting about this video, and I learned a lot from it. I'll just comment on one.
It seems that for doing slants where the bar is on a higher fret on the low strings than the high strings, George does not use his thumb inserted into the bottom of the bar to push that bottom part to the higher fret. The positioning of the thumb in the end of the bar is often described as the 'right' way to do this, to avoid moving your wrist.
But getting my thumb into that end of the bar (the part on the low strings) in the middle of a phrase is really difficult for me and I usually lose control of the bar altogether when trying it. So what I do usually ends up looking more like what George appears to be doing: push the end of the bar
on the low string forward with a combination of hand movement and some pushing from the base of my thumb.

So it's interesting to see even an accomplished player like GP do that kind of thing too!
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Holding the Bar while doing Angle Bar Slants

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Dear Walter , you may want to watch this video more.

In this movie - I only use slants that lower the bottom 1/2 of the Tone Bar during this Lesson.

The Method you have described is for what you are saying, the bottom of the Tone Bar Forward (Reverse Slant)

I do exactly as you describe when doing Reverses on other Videos. My bar has a flat end (Not concave)- Generally the Middle Finger has the radius end on the tip and the thumb on the opposed end and the index some where on top. Again -- not in this video.

For doing the Angle Bar Slants as in this lesson simply use the thumb and fingers to do the slanting. You can arc the wrist some and also push the elbow outward. 8)

Hope this helps.

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Re: Holding the Bar while doing Angle Bar Slants

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George Piburn wrote:Jay -- Roland Cube 100 Tone Works PX3 Pandora
My darn PX3 kept sliding around so it was either nails or velcro to keep it one spot. (I decided to try the velcro first so I can't say how the nails would have worked. :lol: )

So is your Roland Cube one of those ancient keyboard amps from the 80's, or one of a more recent vintage? I just got an old one (with silver tolex!) that I use as a power amp for multiprocessors. It was like $30 used at the local GC... how could I say no??? 8)

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Segment # 2 -- Reverse Slant

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Segment # 2 the Reverse Slant

Angle Bar Slants For C6th Tuning -- Part # 2 Video << Click <<


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Post by Walter Seaman »

Thanks! I watched the 2nd clip too. Very informative. Hey what is your favorite 8-string lap steel (with legs) one or two necks, say in the <$1000 price range?
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Thanks Walter , Hope the Segment 2 Video helps.

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Thanks George! Do you make any double necks?
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D8 GeorgeBoards + NEW VIDEO 3 Note Forward Slants

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Perfect Mr Boards !

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Hank Sr Lick Originally Played by Jerry Byrd

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Hello From Professor Boards

3 Note MINOR Forward Slant << CLICK<<

Found in the Solo of the Hank Sr. Tune "Honky Tonkin" played by Jerry Byrd.

In this movie I play it in the Key of E Major C6th Tuning Fret # 4.

The Inversion Lick is very useful in your bag of tricks. Hope this helps. 8)
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These slant videos have been great. Thanks, George, from one of the beginners.
...but you are the music / while the music lasts (TS Eliot)
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Very nice Mr Boards ! Will be there for your Ustream show to day.

Have a nice day :D

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3 Note Diminished - Augmented Forward Slant

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Segment # 5 -- 3 Note Diminished & Augmented Forward Slant.

3 Note Forward Diminished - Augmented << CLICK<<

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EZ 7th's -- Chord Comps and Lick of the Day

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Segment # 6 Using the Above Ideas to do 1-4-5 Chords for Rhythm and Comps. There are EZ Quick 7ths , and our Lick of the Day.

1-4-5 Chord Comps EZ 7th's and Lick of the Day
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Simple EZ Speed Picking Eye Deers

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Segment # 7 is about Simple - EZ Speed Picking Licks that can help you get it going beyond straight Bar Playing of Chords. No Angel Bar Slants in this installment. These EyeDeers are a beginning example of the endless use of the Tone Bar to one's advantage. You are encouraged to make up your one style of speed picking.

Simple EZ to learn Speed Picking Patterns in the Key of A major.
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Steelin The Blues - Must Know Song

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Hello from MR.Boards

It is good that some of the New To Lap Steel Players are converting to the C6 Tuning. Here are 4 videos of a very important Standard C6 Song "Steelin' The Blues".
This song is Fun to Play - any band can pick up on the chords on the spot -- and -- It works Every Time.

This is one of the "Proud Mary's" of Lap Steel. -- Steelin The Blues is Right up there with Sleepwalk - Steel Guitar Rag and the other greats.

Thank You to the JerryByrd-Fan Club for providing a sound sample of Steelin' The Blues for your reference<<CLICK<< for MP3.

We are playing in open C6th --- the main body of the song is on fret # 1 --
Yes C# -- the reason is it is all about hammer on's - or in this case Roll-On's. ----- Steelin' The Blues Part # 1

The Bridge is F -- Bb -- Eb -- Ab -- MR.Boards Shows you how to play in tune.----- Steelin' The Blues Part # 2


The Bridge is a very common chord progression - learn more classic steel technique.-----Steelin' The Blues Part # 3

The Ending is also a Lap Steel Classic, it works for all sorts of tunes. ----------Steelin' The Blues Part # 4

If you are New To Lap Steel or just want to add an EZ Great Song to your list, Steelin' The Blues is it.
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Well done Mr Boards !

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Superb Guitars George..BUT, considering you're giving credit to the Jerry Byrd site for sound samples, it MAY be judicious to point out that Jerry DIDN'T do this:-
George Piburn wrote: You can arc the wrist some and also push the elbow outward. Hope this helps.
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It's commendable and laudable that you spend so much time helping beginners on this instrument, but regarding arcing the wrist and pushing the elbow outwards from one's side, it's VERY Bad advice IMHO....

All the PRO's I've ever met used to play slants with their fingers manipulating the bar, some of us surviving still do.
I DO Believe that it's not a good practise to raise the elbow or slant "from the wrist"

Jerry Byrd didn't and I'm pretty sure you can't fault his slants.

Of course it's your prerogative to promulgate whatever technique you have and whatever you consider easiest, BUT Please don't allude to the fact that it's the "Correct" Method" or the "Accepted Method" .. because it's not.
It IS considered "Bad Technique" at least within my circles.

PLEASE check out THIS Video for the correct modus operandi.

Please note that this OBSERVATION is made with no intent other than to point out the 0.1% of bad advice. By far the majority of your submissions are not only helpful, but essential reading.
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More Details Revealed to help students get it MoreGooder

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Thanks Basilh for the observation, Every little bit helps the students get a better tone and intonation.

Your Video shows what I had thought was covered in my preceding sentence.

"For doing the Angle Bar Slants as in this lesson simply use the thumb and fingers to do the slanting"


The Context was directed at a particular radical slanted bar on a particular tune played at rapid speed on a recording from the 1950,s. I am not aware of any film taken during that recording session which could confirm Mr. Byrds technique at those few moments in time.

I apologize to any one who feels my brief and apparently incorrect comment was intended as a cover all advise for performing angle bar slants in general.
When a recognized expert and personal mentor mistakes my intent, it is certainly likely that students will too.

Honestly, until this Correction of my technique I'd never heard of this. Since these postings I've talked with the President of the Jerry Byrd Fan Club and he confirmed having heard of this along the way but was not able to recall if it was in any written text.

GeorgeBoards is now on a mission to look for written, visual or spoken evidence so we can document and incorporate the most correctly used techniques into our teachings -- all help is very appreciated.

Many Thanks to Basilh for bringing this to may attention; having a 3.99 grade point average is unacceptable in my personal education, my new goal is to bring that up to 4.0 with 2X Dean's List.