Left on the record
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Bill McCloskey
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Left on the record
Now I love Big Sandy and listening to Lee Jeffriess play but on one track I was listening to recently Lee just sort of loses it in his solo; he is way out of tune and seems lost. It only lasts a few seconds on the record and he is fine everywhere else, but this is so jarring I was surprised they left it on the record. I'm sure Lee was surprised as well.
Any other examples of blunders that should have been erased and done over but weren't and are now on record: any of you have some clunkers on record you cringe when you hear them?
Any other examples of blunders that should have been erased and done over but weren't and are now on record: any of you have some clunkers on record you cringe when you hear them?
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Jack Stoner
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I did a session for "Big K" records in Kansas City back in the late 70's. The song is "Pinball Boogie" and the singer is Bob Bohn (from Iowa). My parts on the record were a couple of licks backing the singer and a part of the instrumental break. On the backing section one time I hit a 1 chord lick where it should have been a 5 chord lick. I didn't know it until I was there for a different recording session and the engineer played the "final mix" tape and I noticed it. It was too late as the master tape had been sent to the record manufacturing plant in Cincinatti. He wasn't worried and said it sounded OK the way it was. The song went #1 in Iowa, Nebraska, North and South Dakota and Minnesota (and on other station play lists).
I have an old Chet Atkins LP and on one song he makes a run from the 12th fret down to E open and about a quarter of the way through the run he goes flat and he just continues flat and works back to the correct key at the end of the run - like that was the way it was supposed to be. I was surprised to find something like than in a Chet Atkins recording.
I have an old Chet Atkins LP and on one song he makes a run from the 12th fret down to E open and about a quarter of the way through the run he goes flat and he just continues flat and works back to the correct key at the end of the run - like that was the way it was supposed to be. I was surprised to find something like than in a Chet Atkins recording.
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Brint Hannay
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I happen to have been listening to Junior Brown's Guit With It album earlier today, and once again noticed Jimmie Vaughan's guitar solo on "My Wife Thinks You're Dead". He plays two full choruses, and 98% of the way he's really in the groove, it's a really good solo, but at the very end of the solo a voice can be heard crying "Whoa!!!", and from my own similar experience I know it's Jimmie saying "D*** it!! I was really hitting it, and then I lost it at the very end! Aaaarrrggh!!!" But the rest of the solo is so good they kept it on the record.
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Bill McCloskey
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Jack Stoner
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Bill, yes, everytime I heard the song I heard my mistake that no one else seemed to hear or mind. But I think that's typical of any musician.
One of the problems with that old recording is they would have had to do the session over completely, it wasn't like it is now where everyone is on separate tracks (and virtually unlimited with the computer DAW's). The studio had a 4 track Tascam recorder and he was bouncing tracks (combining them) to get open tracks to add everything to the recording. Thus by the time it got down to the "final" several tracks had been combined, several times. The "master" tape was a mixdown to a two track Ampex recorder.
One of the problems with that old recording is they would have had to do the session over completely, it wasn't like it is now where everyone is on separate tracks (and virtually unlimited with the computer DAW's). The studio had a 4 track Tascam recorder and he was bouncing tracks (combining them) to get open tracks to add everything to the recording. Thus by the time it got down to the "final" several tracks had been combined, several times. The "master" tape was a mixdown to a two track Ampex recorder.
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Rick Barnhart
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Someone posted a discussion here before, but I couldn't find the link... The Mamas and the Papas recorded a "famous false start mistake" in "I Saw Her Again" and left it in. I can't imagine the recording without it. The false start begin at about 2:43 on this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwtzP8KZwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwtzP8KZwY
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You have to listen real close, but on Jack Green's "Statue of a fool", there is a steel slide that sounds like he changed his mind and cut it short. I think it's in the second verse, and very much buried in the mix, but it's there.
Sidenote: In "88 and "89, I was working alot with Gene O'neal, and every time the singer would sing this song, Gene would play that slide and cut it off just like the record. Gene loved "inside" jokes, and we always had fun with that one.
Jim
Sidenote: In "88 and "89, I was working alot with Gene O'neal, and every time the singer would sing this song, Gene would play that slide and cut it off just like the record. Gene loved "inside" jokes, and we always had fun with that one.
Jim
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Bryan Daste
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This has made the rounds before, but it's fun:
http://www.hometracked.com/2007/08/23/1 ... the-album/
http://www.hometracked.com/2007/08/23/1 ... the-album/
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