Floyd Cramer's The Last Date ?
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basilh
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Floyd Cramer's The Last Date ?
Who wrote "The Last Date"
Floyd Cramer's hit ?
Please, I've seen it credited as "Traditional" but surely that's wrong !
Anyone who has the record can verify the writer credits from the label ..
Floyd Cramer's hit ?
Please, I've seen it credited as "Traditional" but surely that's wrong !
Anyone who has the record can verify the writer credits from the label ..
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"About Last Date
By Floyd Cramer. Single for solo piano. C Major. 3 pages. Published by Hal Leonard. (HL.351972)"
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/a/item.ht ... 0&id=79590
I get the impression Floyd wrote it himself.

By Floyd Cramer. Single for solo piano. C Major. 3 pages. Published by Hal Leonard. (HL.351972)"
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/a/item.ht ... 0&id=79590
I get the impression Floyd wrote it himself.

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Earnest Bovine wrote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercy,_Mercy,_Mercy
However, Zawinul may have written the lyrics to the Conway Twitty version of Last Date, released in 1972.

According to Wikipedia, Joe Zawinul wrote "Mercy Mercy Mercy" in 1966."Mercy Mercy Mercy" was first recorded in 1958
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercy,_Mercy,_Mercy
However, Zawinul may have written the lyrics to the Conway Twitty version of Last Date, released in 1972.
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Cramer surely was one of the Nashville A team during the time when Chet Atkins ruled the RCA roost.
He was more than likely not the inventor of the signature sound of the "slip key" piano as his style is called, even though he became the supreme vehicle for it. Atkins had given Cramer a demo tape to a song called "Please Help Me I'm Falling" written by Don Robertson. Atkins told Cramer that he really liked the licks that Robertson played on piano on the demo and to learn them for the recording they would do on the song later. That is probably where Cramers signature sound came from. Cramer himself said on one occasion that he was trying to sound like Mother Maybelle Carters autoharp, but I don't hear that much in his playing. Anyway, that is the ledgend on how Cramer got started with that style. His earlier work in the late 50s sounded totally different, and it is very coincidental that "Last Date" was recorded only a couple of months after he had copied the Don Robertson licks for the "Help Me I'm Falling" session. Food for thought.
He was a hard nose about money. I worked with Atkins conductor Albert Coleman who for many years traveled with Atkins, Cramer and Boots Randolph on their many tours. When Albert was putting together his own recording in the 70s and asked his old friends to make guest appearances on it, Atkins and Randolph were happy to do so for free.....not Cramer. He demanded to get paid.
Another aspect of his playing on sessions was his organ playing. It can be heard on lot's of Nashville sessions mostly mixed back in the track but adding a lot. I was listening to Patsy Cline's "Heartaches" the other day. I never realized that there is an organ in that recording playing some rhythm "jabs" and backbeats. Had to be Cramer.
He was more than likely not the inventor of the signature sound of the "slip key" piano as his style is called, even though he became the supreme vehicle for it. Atkins had given Cramer a demo tape to a song called "Please Help Me I'm Falling" written by Don Robertson. Atkins told Cramer that he really liked the licks that Robertson played on piano on the demo and to learn them for the recording they would do on the song later. That is probably where Cramers signature sound came from. Cramer himself said on one occasion that he was trying to sound like Mother Maybelle Carters autoharp, but I don't hear that much in his playing. Anyway, that is the ledgend on how Cramer got started with that style. His earlier work in the late 50s sounded totally different, and it is very coincidental that "Last Date" was recorded only a couple of months after he had copied the Don Robertson licks for the "Help Me I'm Falling" session. Food for thought.
He was a hard nose about money. I worked with Atkins conductor Albert Coleman who for many years traveled with Atkins, Cramer and Boots Randolph on their many tours. When Albert was putting together his own recording in the 70s and asked his old friends to make guest appearances on it, Atkins and Randolph were happy to do so for free.....not Cramer. He demanded to get paid.
Another aspect of his playing on sessions was his organ playing. It can be heard on lot's of Nashville sessions mostly mixed back in the track but adding a lot. I was listening to Patsy Cline's "Heartaches" the other day. I never realized that there is an organ in that recording playing some rhythm "jabs" and backbeats. Had to be Cramer.
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Don was playing that style before Floyd,I have an old 45 of Don's,before Last Date,He was already playing the CRAMER style,before it WAS the Cramer style.hE also wrote a LOT of songs.DYKBC.
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b0b it's written AND recorded in "C" as that's the key most conducive to the "Slip Note" technique IMHO..b0b wrote:What key is it in?
As usual I've stirred a little excrement in THIS thread ..

For the non French speakering Forumites (Like me):-
The Last Date ... TRADITIONAL .. NO... No... No...
That's "Plagiarism".. No excuse for not finding out the CORRECT Credits, it took me 0.237 seconds on Google to find this ..
It was written by Floyd Cramer..
See this at the Country Music Hall of Fame :- Click Here“It’s been done for a long time on the guitar by people like Maybelle Carter,” Cramer said, “and by lots of people on the steel guitar. Half-tones are very common, but the style I use mainly is a whole-tone slur which gives more of a lonesome, cowboy sound.”
It was at Atkins’s suggestion that Cramer wrote “Last Date” to showcase the slip-note style. It was a bigger pop than country hit, climbing to #2; the only record keeping it from #1 was Elvis Presley’s “Are You Lonesome Tonight,” another record Cramer had played on. By the mid-1960s, Cramer was established as an album act, recording prolifically for RCA and touring widely with RCA labelmates Chet Atkins and saxophonist Boots Randolph.
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That one has been around for over a hundred years or more. It's also been done under many differant names.Alan Brookes wrote:Wasn't Black Mountain Rag written by Doc Watson ?
"My Baby Thinks She's A Train" was written by LeRoy Preston, one of the early members of 'Asleep at The Wheel', and it is copyrighted.
