Between a rock and a hard place
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thurlon hopper
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Between a rock and a hard place
Am accustomed to playing through a late 1969 Twin that a friend of mine (fine amp tech) went over making it very clean and quiet, and using an EVM12L and JBL E-130 for speakers. Bobbye qouted me a very good price on a new Nashville 112, but if i buy it and don't like it, i'm no farther head on trying to find a light amp that my diabetic-damaged body can carry out to a gig if necessary. Those of you who have tried , or use the 112, does it have enough tone and power to please the ear after listeneing every day to this Twin with the premium speakers? My part-time job has been very slow ythe last several weeks, and i don't want to waste money on something that won't be up to the job. Is there something else that might be better? Thanks for any answers that you give to my inquiry.
TJH
Carter D-10 9+5 Twin, other guitars and amps
TJH
Carter D-10 9+5 Twin, other guitars and amps
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Mike Wheeler
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Sonny Priddy
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I Have Two 112's I Got From Bobbie Seymour And They Sound Great I Only Use One Amp On A Gig That's All I Need .But Everybody To Their Own Thing. SONNY.
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Mitch Druckman
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Your Fender Twin is one of the sweetest sounding amps ever made, but there are very few people willing (or able) to move such a heavy amp. Now that your sense of tone is used to the Twin you may think that other amps sound a bit cold or thin.
The missing link is a Black Box. If you buy a Nashville 112 and the tone is not sweet enough for you, the Black Box will bring it home. If the Nashville 112 stage volume is not loud enough or big enough you can connect a second amp. Either way you can make it work with a Nashville 112. It will never sound like a Twin Reverb, but you can still get a beautiful sound. The 112 is actually more articulate and cleaner sounding than a Twin and not harsh at all. Even carrying multiple 112's to a gig would be easier than moving around a Fender Twin with JBL and EV's. In the last few years I have learned to balance the reality of moving heavy equipment with my desire for the perfect tone. Good luck.
The missing link is a Black Box. If you buy a Nashville 112 and the tone is not sweet enough for you, the Black Box will bring it home. If the Nashville 112 stage volume is not loud enough or big enough you can connect a second amp. Either way you can make it work with a Nashville 112. It will never sound like a Twin Reverb, but you can still get a beautiful sound. The 112 is actually more articulate and cleaner sounding than a Twin and not harsh at all. Even carrying multiple 112's to a gig would be easier than moving around a Fender Twin with JBL and EV's. In the last few years I have learned to balance the reality of moving heavy equipment with my desire for the perfect tone. Good luck.
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Jack Stoner
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Contact Harry Hatterer in York, that's not too far away. He recently bought a new Nashville 112, after playing a high power Session 500 for many years and is happy with it.
However if your are "tube" person I doubt that ANY solid state amp will make you happy.
Harry's e-mail is hhatterer@verizon.net
However if your are "tube" person I doubt that ANY solid state amp will make you happy.
Harry's e-mail is hhatterer@verizon.net
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Chick Donner
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Thurlon (how nice to be in contact again!!), I used to use Twins, then went SS in 1970. I used ShoBuds for years, then two Webb 614's. Like Jack said above, if you 'love' tubes, you probably won't like a 112. I bought one for a spare amp, and it's great FOR WHAT IT IS. It's 80 watts and a 12 inch speaker (that handles low notes like you wouldn's believe). Big place, no PA hookup, you can't be heard. Go thru the PA, no problem. I do use it in very small clubs and at jams, etc.
Like you, I'm lots older since we met in Okinawa, and also diabetic. I needed to get rid of weight and went to a PodProXT in a rack driving a Stewart World 1.6 power amp (1600 W-15 lbs), then driving one or two (depending on room size) BW 15's in Duane Marrs lightweight cabinets. The speakers are about 24 lbs each, and the Pod and amp are in a rack with a luggage handle and rollers on it.
Like you, I'm lots older since we met in Okinawa, and also diabetic. I needed to get rid of weight and went to a PodProXT in a rack driving a Stewart World 1.6 power amp (1600 W-15 lbs), then driving one or two (depending on room size) BW 15's in Duane Marrs lightweight cabinets. The speakers are about 24 lbs each, and the Pod and amp are in a rack with a luggage handle and rollers on it.
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Thurlon,
I pulled the chasis of my twin and put it in an old empty dual showman head cabinet. Now I have two heavy but managable pieces to lug around. The head is still pretty darn heavy (and this is only a 65ri; a 69 silverface would be worse for sure), but managable.
Dan
I pulled the chasis of my twin and put it in an old empty dual showman head cabinet. Now I have two heavy but managable pieces to lug around. The head is still pretty darn heavy (and this is only a 65ri; a 69 silverface would be worse for sure), but managable.
Dan
Durham, NH
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Dave Mudgett
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I agree with the suggestion to separate the Twin Reverb into a head + cab configuration. Best of both worlds. I have an original '69 Dual Showman Reverb head - same thing - into a Tremolux-sized 1-15" cab that I picked up a long time ago. It's manageable.
But even with that said - I'm a confirmed tube-head, but I really like the NV 112 I got from Bobbe last summer, fronted with a black box and/or Pod. With the Pod, it even sounds very good with a Tele or Strat, to my tastes. I use it in small clubs without PA reinforcement, or in larger places with it.
I'm not exactly local - Central PA is big, or as James Carville put it - PA is basically Philly and Pittsburg with Mississippi in the middle.
I'm at Penn State main campus (about 2 hrs from Etown), but do get down to H'burg area periodically, and you would be most welcome to try out mine next time I'm down, if you haven't figured this out by then. Of course, you'd be welcome to try mine out here in Happy Valley most anytime you want to, just email me.
But even with that said - I'm a confirmed tube-head, but I really like the NV 112 I got from Bobbe last summer, fronted with a black box and/or Pod. With the Pod, it even sounds very good with a Tele or Strat, to my tastes. I use it in small clubs without PA reinforcement, or in larger places with it.
I'm not exactly local - Central PA is big, or as James Carville put it - PA is basically Philly and Pittsburg with Mississippi in the middle.