"Steel Guitar Magic" - Magic indeed

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 1 Jul 2007 1:05 am

As a preamble I must say that I RARELY listen to any steel guitar music analytically and in depth, I just look (Listen) to the overall canvas.

Well, whilst driving down the M1 coming home from a Gig, I played a CD and decided to work out the tunings the players were using - did I get some surprise!.

Would anyone like to venture what tunings are in use on this album ?

Have fun.
BTW what date was this recorded it's the Jack de Mello presents "Steel Guitar Magic"

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 1 Jul 2007 3:49 am

The backup on this album is total cheese, but Barney and Billy's playing is classic and a definite must-study. Goodies for days!

Barney employs C6(13), B11, and E13 (also A6 on Maui Chimes).
Billy A6 and all the various pulls on his Fender pedal steel.

Todd Weger · Post by **Todd Weger** » 1 Jul 2007 6:26 am

Is Barney on the left channel, and Billy on the right?

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 1 Jul 2007 9:52 am

I don't think that panning arrangement was on all the tunes, sometimes it was reversed and sometimes I think the steel may have been just Billy, if every track is both of them then Barney is playing pedals as well.

Beyond the Reef, Lahina Luna, Sophisticated Hula and The Hawaiian Wedding Song all have pedal steel on both left AND Right channels.
(That's what I found initially interesting)
I must listen more closely to ALL the tracks and post what I personally think.

BTW Has anyone got more inf about the copedent Bill Hew Len used ?

Garry Vanderlinde · Post by **Garry Vanderlinde** » 1 Jul 2007 10:56 am

I got my copy of this from Hilo Hattie’s and listened to it many, many times and even learned a couple tunes from. I was totally unaware that there was a pedal guitar on it.

Jim Bates · Post by **Jim Bates** » 1 Jul 2007 2:13 pm

I use E13th, A6 and C6 on my Fender T-8

Thanx,
Jim

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 1 Jul 2007 2:33 pm

I have it in the forum catalog: Click Here

Bill Leff · Post by **Bill Leff** » 1 Jul 2007 3:44 pm

Like Jeff said, the arrangements are total cheese, the stuff to give Hawaiian music a bad name. But the steel playing is excellent.

George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 1 Jul 2007 8:17 pm

Gads! This album came out over 150 years ago as an lp.

I have played that old lp so many times and have almost worn it out. Now I have it in cd format and I still enjoy "cheese". To each his own, but I happen to like it, (and I like cheese also...worked in a dairy for a summer.)

Matt Johnson · Post by **Matt Johnson** » 2 Jul 2007 9:19 am

What is it about the arrangements that make it cheesy? I kind of know what you guys mean, but I kind of like it, too! Is it the "tremolo-ed" vibrophones? "Shakers"? Percussion intros? Just wondering. Going from older Iona stuff to this is definitely different, but I don't think it gives Hawaiian music a bad name. Were Billy and Barney really hard up for money that they'd participate in something cheesy? Was it the time period? Lots of questions, I know, but I'm trying to understand.

Jim Bates · Post by **Jim Bates** » 2 Jul 2007 10:10 am

How do you count the votes for your tunings poll?

I gave a vote for the E13th, yet you still show "0"?

Just curious,

Jim

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 2 Jul 2007 10:36 am

Did you click the button that says E13?

Jim Bates · Post by **Jim Bates** » 2 Jul 2007 5:20 pm

What buttons?? Not shown on my computer.

Thanx,
Jim

Jim Bates · Post by **Jim Bates** » 2 Jul 2007 5:24 pm

After some searching, I double clicked on the title and buttons came up. So, I voted for E 13th.

There were no buttons when I just normally read the topic as I always do.

Thanx,
Jim

Stephan Miller · Post by **Stephan Miller** » 2 Jul 2007 7:17 pm

Jim, I think you have to log in with your password etc. to have your vote registered in a poll. It seems to me that I can't even see the "buttons" unless I've done this.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 3 Jul 2007 4:01 am

I've modified the full tracks to clips ... If you like the album then b0b has it here :- Click

Jim Bates · Post by **Jim Bates** » 3 Jul 2007 8:23 am

Trying not to turn this into an IT topic, but I do not accept 'cookies' on my PC. If a website is so set up that cookies must allowed or I can't see the site properly, then I turn off that website.

I did log in properly when I tried to vote in this poll (if I were not logged in, I could not have sent a reply). After several tries, I did manage to cast a vote as I said above.

The Steel Guitar Forum is still my favorite (and only) website where I can read and discuss topics
of the steel guitar world with several thousand others who are a part of that world. Keep up the good work 'Forum'!

Thanx,
Jim

Don Kona Woods · Post by **Don Kona Woods** » 3 Jul 2007 9:04 am

I voted for the tuning that I use most which is C6th, but I use B11th and C#m7 almost as much with a little E13th thrown in here and there.

I really enjoy the variety of tunings. And of
course some songs seem more fitted to certain
tunings.

Aloha,

Don

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 3 Jul 2007 2:35 pm

Jim Bates wrote:Trying not to turn this into an IT topic, but I do not accept 'cookies' on my PC. If a website is so set up that cookies must allowed or I can't see the site properly, then I turn off that website.

I did log in properly when I tried to vote in this poll (if I were not logged in, I could not have sent a reply). After several tries, I did manage to cast a vote as I said above.

The Steel Guitar Forum is still my favorite (and only) website where I can read and discuss topics
of the steel guitar world with several thousand others who are a part of that world. Keep up the good work 'Forum'!

Thanx,
Jim

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