Odd pedal configuration...
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Odd pedal configuration...
These two Conway Twitty clips were posted over in "Steel on the Web". Someone stated that it was Lew Houston.
It looks like the pedals are located all the way to the right on a single neck Sho~Bud. I wonder if this was a custom build or a retrofit? I can't tell how many pedals there are... I guess there could be more than three and he may be playing some kind of Mooney style setup. Certainly has a pedal mashing Mooney feel to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7AzS-PwPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OG7Xa4LFGs
Cool stuff!!
db
It looks like the pedals are located all the way to the right on a single neck Sho~Bud. I wonder if this was a custom build or a retrofit? I can't tell how many pedals there are... I guess there could be more than three and he may be playing some kind of Mooney style setup. Certainly has a pedal mashing Mooney feel to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7AzS-PwPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OG7Xa4LFGs
Cool stuff!!
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Yeah, and notice the absence of a volume pedal as well...
I guess it's not so strange because it obviously worked very well for him... It's just peculiar to me because I've never seen an E9th setup like that.
Maybe a carry over from something he "got used to" when the pedal craze hit and since it worked for him he stuck with it?
I guess it's not so strange because it obviously worked very well for him... It's just peculiar to me because I've never seen an E9th setup like that.
Maybe a carry over from something he "got used to" when the pedal craze hit and since it worked for him he stuck with it?
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Very interesting. It sure sounds as if he has a volume pedal, or control somewhere. At first I thought it might have been attached to the far right pedal, like that one student model had at one time (can't remember the brand, MSA?) I think there were 3 pedals.
Anyway, he did some nice stuff in that clip.
Anyway, he did some nice stuff in that clip.
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Lee, you're right. I see that pinky riding a control.
Also, on the second verse of the first song, notice how it almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes piano! Great technique.
One last thing...it looked like he's using only two fingers...thumb and index...he sure got a lot of music out of two fingers. Very simple, but very effective.
Also, on the second verse of the first song, notice how it almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes piano! Great technique.
One last thing...it looked like he's using only two fingers...thumb and index...he sure got a lot of music out of two fingers. Very simple, but very effective.
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I just did a Google search on Lew Houston. It looks like he passed away in 2001. Here is a previous discussion from the old Forum:
CLICK HERE
Perhaps Forumite Gene Jones can offer some more info on Lew.
CLICK HERE
Perhaps Forumite Gene Jones can offer some more info on Lew.
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Lew Houston Copedent
Ok, so I have done some digging and here is what I have found.
Lew played an 8 string D9, no chromatic strings.
He had 4 pedals connected but only 3 worked, no knee levers.
In these clips when they show his feet he is only using two pedals, the two closest to the right, #3 & #4.
On Working Girl he plays in the Key of (G) with his Bar on the 3rd fret (in D9 remember)
His Right foot holding the #4 pedal down 90% of the time,
and, he Pumps his Left foot on pedal #3.
He is effectivly in the " B & C Pedal, Minor " position.
In D9
In the Key of (G) with Bar on the 3rd Fret;
His Left foot on the #3 Pedal;
Raises the 2nd string, the 7th of the Key, a full tone up to the Root of the Key.
and,
Raises the 3rd string, the 4th of the Key, a full tone up to the 5th of the Key.
This is a typical "C" pedal
Holding down the #4 Pedal;
Raises the 1st string,(and 6th=?) the 2nd of the Key, up 1/2 step to the (-3), minor 3rd, of the Key.
This is a typical "B" pedal.
Ok,so good so far,but,...
In the other Clip "Mine to Lose" when they go to a close up of Lew playing the Solo, you can not see his feet, but you can hear all the changes while he holds his Bar in one position.
You can not play that Solo without moving the Bar with just the 2 pedal listed above.
What is the other Pedal pulling ?
Is the #2 Pedal lowering the Root note ( 2nd string)1/2 step ?
Lew used to play a Fender 400, with just 4 pedals.
Single Raise, Single Lower.
If he used the same Copedent on the Fender, then all three of the pulls listed above could have been possible on the Fender 400.
What do you think?
AND, more clips of Lew Playing, Please...
Fred
Lew played an 8 string D9, no chromatic strings.
He had 4 pedals connected but only 3 worked, no knee levers.
In these clips when they show his feet he is only using two pedals, the two closest to the right, #3 & #4.
On Working Girl he plays in the Key of (G) with his Bar on the 3rd fret (in D9 remember)
His Right foot holding the #4 pedal down 90% of the time,
and, he Pumps his Left foot on pedal #3.
He is effectivly in the " B & C Pedal, Minor " position.
In D9
In the Key of (G) with Bar on the 3rd Fret;
His Left foot on the #3 Pedal;
Raises the 2nd string, the 7th of the Key, a full tone up to the Root of the Key.
and,
Raises the 3rd string, the 4th of the Key, a full tone up to the 5th of the Key.
This is a typical "C" pedal
Holding down the #4 Pedal;
Raises the 1st string,(and 6th=?) the 2nd of the Key, up 1/2 step to the (-3), minor 3rd, of the Key.
This is a typical "B" pedal.
Ok,so good so far,but,...
In the other Clip "Mine to Lose" when they go to a close up of Lew playing the Solo, you can not see his feet, but you can hear all the changes while he holds his Bar in one position.
You can not play that Solo without moving the Bar with just the 2 pedal listed above.
What is the other Pedal pulling ?
Is the #2 Pedal lowering the Root note ( 2nd string)1/2 step ?
Lew used to play a Fender 400, with just 4 pedals.
Single Raise, Single Lower.
If he used the same Copedent on the Fender, then all three of the pulls listed above could have been possible on the Fender 400.
What do you think?
AND, more clips of Lew Playing, Please...
Fred
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Great stuff on both clips! All the moves on both clips can be done with just the A,B,&C pedals.
I'm always somewhat befuddled; when anyone does anything other than just normal "A&B pedal mashin'", other players look for "trick tunings" and "trick pedal setups". Haven't heard it played that way before? "That must be a new pedal pull or new tuning he's using?"
Nope, it's called "style", and it means doing something in a memorable or unique way.
It's NOT about having a funny tuning or different pedal changes, it's how you approach and play the instrument!
I'm always somewhat befuddled; when anyone does anything other than just normal "A&B pedal mashin'", other players look for "trick tunings" and "trick pedal setups". Haven't heard it played that way before? "That must be a new pedal pull or new tuning he's using?"
Nope, it's called "style", and it means doing something in a memorable or unique way.
It's NOT about having a funny tuning or different pedal changes, it's how you approach and play the instrument!
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Mine to Lose Solo
Donny,
I'm not trying to add any Mystery at all. I thought I heard a passing tone in the Solo in "Mine to Lose" that would call for a 1/2 step lower,that is not avail with "A,B,C", without moving the bar. I thought he might have a Knee Lever type Pull on one of his pedals. But I will recheck, I may be adding a note that he does not play.
Anyway, if all this is so simple then someone please do me and others a favour, and TAB these two songs out for us in 8 string, no Chromatics, and no knee levers.
From the Chicken Pickin' Tele stuff, to the Fender Rhodes Piano style, these two songs are great lessons in style and taste.
Fred
I'm not trying to add any Mystery at all. I thought I heard a passing tone in the Solo in "Mine to Lose" that would call for a 1/2 step lower,that is not avail with "A,B,C", without moving the bar. I thought he might have a Knee Lever type Pull on one of his pedals. But I will recheck, I may be adding a note that he does not play.
Anyway, if all this is so simple then someone please do me and others a favour, and TAB these two songs out for us in 8 string, no Chromatics, and no knee levers.
From the Chicken Pickin' Tele stuff, to the Fender Rhodes Piano style, these two songs are great lessons in style and taste.
Fred