Rare Gibson lap steel?

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 4 Jun 2006 5:25 pm

Gibson fans: Don't let This One get away.

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George Rout · Post by **George Rout** » 4 Jun 2006 5:27 pm

I wonder if he has two so I could get a volume discount!!! Geo

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 4 Jun 2006 5:33 pm

I hope you all enjoy this offering.

Well, we are. Love the description. I haven't seen so much cr@p since I put Ex-Lax in my brother's pudding.....

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 4 Jun 2006 5:53 pm

How do these sellers come up with such prices? An opening bid of 30K ?? Did he just pull that figure out of his... hat? (no pun intended Howard).

George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 4 Jun 2006 6:06 pm

I recall that guitar back in my musical retail days in the forties, fifties. It was nothing to get excited about then, and to my mind, is still nothing great. The Ultratone models which came along later were better. Anyone who falls for this crap deserves that bridge in Brooklyn !
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Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 4 Jun 2006 6:18 pm

I can't recall the seller's name that had a similar ebay listing for a BR-9---said it was extremely rare, remember? I think it was also 30G's. And I think he also had 0 feedback. While we all know that this is a load of crap, I'm more leaning toward it being beyond stupid and being purely crooked. Bent.
I was high bidder on a BR-9 a few years ago--I believe it was the first ebay thing I had ever bid on. It didn't meet the reserve. The seller offered it to me for $250. I passed. Little did I realize it was worth multi-thousand buckaroos.

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 4 Jun 2006 6:20 pm

Without the original case he'll be lucky to get $20,000. What a rip off!

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 4 Jun 2006 7:07 pm

Jon, Yes, that seller of the BR-9 was trying to pull a fast one! [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 04 June 2006 at 09:22 PM.]

Don Kona Woods · Post by **Don Kona Woods** » 4 Jun 2006 11:15 pm

Fellows, I think the shipping is free though. What more could you ask?

Richard Brandt · Post by **Richard Brandt** » 5 Jun 2006 3:10 am

With free shipping i'll take it

Tighe Falato · Post by **Tighe Falato** » 5 Jun 2006 4:43 am

The holy grail has been found

That doesn't look like any Gibson pu I've ever seen. I don't believe Gibson ever used an amphenol connector for any of their steel models and what is with that logo on the peghead? Oh yeah I almost forgot, it's the first one or a prototype

Lets see I can either buy a new Pontiac Soltice convertible and save $5K or this steel for the collection. Tough decision! He takes PayPal, right?

Todd Weger · Post by **Todd Weger** » 5 Jun 2006 5:03 am

"This particular guitar is so rare that information regarding it is quite sketchy."

Ahhh... yeah, right...

Well, just to be sure nobody else gets this rare baby, I put in a bid for $100K, just to be safe! Like my steaks, rare, baby -- RARE!!!

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Todd James Weger --
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, A6, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, B11/A6); Regal resonator (C6); 1938 Epiphone Electar (A6); assorted ukuleles; upright bass

Ben Sims · Post by **Ben Sims** » 5 Jun 2006 6:01 am

Also, isn' t it interesting that, even though the finish is completely broken up everywhere else, the Gibson logo seems to be in perfect shape?

George Rout · Post by **George Rout** » 5 Jun 2006 6:03 am

That's neat sleuthing Ben.....
Geo

Richard Sevigny · Post by **Richard Sevigny** » 5 Jun 2006 7:34 am

The Gibson logo on the peghead is definitely not original. Apart from the cosmetic issue raised by Ben, it's also from the wrong era (isn't that a 70's logo??).

Could it be a low end Kalamazoo?

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 5 Jun 2006 7:43 am

I think if I were selling a guitar worth $30K, I'd break down and spend a couple hundred bucks to have a pro photographer take a handful of shots in his studio, instead of leaning it up against the sofa!

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 5 Jun 2006 8:06 am

And what about that low "serial number" stamped into the wood? The letters in G I B S O N are all off, they're not even straight.

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 5 Jun 2006 9:32 am

Not to mention the phillips screws.

Tighe Falato · Post by **Tighe Falato** » 5 Jun 2006 10:18 am

The seller posted a response to the question "is this for real"? Interesting response which states that he has 30 years of experience and 5 appraisers all agree with him. The $30K was pulled from out of the air as he doesn't expect to sell it. I sent him a note questioning the logo, pickup & control plate, bridge/tailpiece, nut, finish and amphenol connector. I believe that covers most of the steel

I also suggested he send a pic to Gruhn and Carter for their input. My guess is a handyman special but I've been wrong before.....

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 5 Jun 2006 2:39 pm

"The $30K was pulled from out of the air as he doesn't expect to sell it."

If that's the case, I guess I'm trying to figure out why he bothered to put it on ebay.

Seems like kind of an unusual hobby, designing and posting ebay ads just for fun...

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Richard Sevigny · Post by **Richard Sevigny** » 5 Jun 2006 3:37 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Q: Is this ad for real?

A: As real as the guitar. Although, this should not be considered as an attempt to sell off ebay, it should be obvious we are not actually expecting to sell it here and now. We primarily want to get exposure and feedback. We figure since ebay has such a huge audience, some response might come from running a listing. Since there are no comparisons, we have no clear idea of value. In addition to having over 40 years experience ourselves, we've consulted with 5 expert vintage guitar appraisers. We are all in agreement as to what we have. We are also all at a loss as to how best deal with it. So as to not undervalue the guitar, we set a price that compares with the highest known for a rare vintage Gibson. We acknowledge that it is likely way out of line. I hope you don't mind answering; What would you do if you were in our situation? Thanks for your consideration. Jim <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...I would set a reasonable reserve and let the market decide....

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 5 Jun 2006 5:00 pm

Well shoot, I guess that pretty much cinches it for me...I'm willin' to go 10 grand anyway!

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Bill Creller · Post by **Bill Creller** » 5 Jun 2006 5:26 pm

This forum really cracks me up! Almost fell off my chair when reading this post!!!

Andy Hinton · Post by **Andy Hinton** » 5 Jun 2006 6:00 pm

Guy's: If this one is worth that, I will offer 28 new Gitfiddles for the same price. Almost as rare too. Only 2 in existance at this moment. Just send 25% deposit & I'll start building them. Andy H.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 5 Jun 2006 6:44 pm

So this guitar is definitely Not a Gibson product... correct? Possibly a modified Ultratone? Or maybe a home-made body cut to look like an Ultratone? A mix of some Gibson parts and a lot of other parts. Complete with phony serial number and phony logo. There's no way this could be a Gibson product... or could it? Maybe the seller just assembled it and reliced it in his workshop. The seller has no history on eBay, so who knows?