Mystery Steelie and Rhythm Player

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 23 Apr 2006 3:56 am

They are from what Michael Lee Allen would describe as an "Enemy Nation" Circa 2004

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Steel players do it without fretting

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 24 Apr 2006 12:20 am

Thanks to Wallace G Pfeifer, the first tune has been identified as "Tu Ning" (Often incorrectly referred to as "CHEW" Ning)
The second tune is carefree (Sort of) minus the all inportant verse
Click here for the REAL one

The third tune is not the Canine Genitalia, but more like a spherical object rising (Balls-Up)
On the Beach at Waikiki with lots of Rubbish thrown in. (Tide must have been out)
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Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 24 Apr 2006 10:21 am

Whoever that was, it was great!

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 24 Apr 2006 10:27 am

Thanks Rick, It is my wife on rhythm guitar and myself on a 1957 Fender Deluxe 8 (The single necked Stringmaster)

Jon Kostal · Post by **Jon Kostal** » 24 Apr 2006 6:19 pm

Basil, that was some kick-ass steel guitar playing, IMHO. I just spent 3 weeks in Hawaii, and I can tell you they don't play 'em like that there. Fabulous!! Congratulations! Your wife is great as well. Loved it. I'd love to see/hear more.

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Jon
Uncle Jons Music

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 24 Apr 2006 6:43 pm

Thanks for the encouragement John and Rick and Wally, sometimes we feel as though we are in a bit of a 'wilderness' and then you people say things to encourage us.. I promise that very soon we'll do a couple of tunes "Properly" and put the video on YouTube..
Thanks again, it kinda make it all worth while .. even if we're Persona non grata with some people.!!!
(Not mentioning Michael Lee Allen in particular) Probably feels threatened somewhat by a female guitar player actually playing the right chords to Carefree !!
Well That's enough axes ground for the moment..[This message was edited by basilh on 24 April 2006 at 07:44 PM.]

Gerald Ross · Post by **Gerald Ross** » 24 Apr 2006 7:16 pm

Very nice Baz. I think you have a future with that thing.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

CEO, CIO, CFO - UkeTone Records
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 25 Apr 2006 3:35 am

Thanks Ger, Pat and I think that we might succeed more if we practised a little.
In all seriousness, we rarely rehearse and NEVER practise,
It really is embarrassing.

Bill McCloskey · Post by **Bill McCloskey** » 25 Apr 2006 4:04 am

If I can add a slight suggestion: it would be more enjoyable if you edited out some of the setup and tuning.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 25 Apr 2006 4:08 am

I 'm not so sure Bill, It was VERY informal and something I found on the end of a tape....I think tuning the way I did and not getting the guitar in tune, but playing it relatively in tune was relevant., and it DOES demonstrate the tuning I was using..[This message was edited by basilh on 25 April 2006 at 05:15 AM.]

Bunky Markert · Post by **Bunky Markert** » 25 Apr 2006 5:15 am

That was simply great! It made my morning. More please!

Jon Kostal · Post by **Jon Kostal** » 26 Apr 2006 4:39 pm

Baz,
Is this your tuning? What would you call it?

1. E
2. C#
3. B
4. G#
5. F#
6. E
7. C#
8. B

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Jon
Uncle Jons Music

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 26 Apr 2006 5:06 pm

Thanks for asking John, the tuning I was using was E6th :-

1. E
2. C#
3. B
4. G#
5. E
6. C#
7. B
8. G#

and I was retuning from B11th

1. E
2. C#
3. A
4. F#
5. D#
6. B
7. A
8. B Low

I do sometimes use the tuning you listed and I call it E69

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Jon Kostal · Post by **Jon Kostal** » 26 Apr 2006 7:17 pm

Thanks much, Basil, I'll work on them. I'm new to no pedals, I've played pedal steel for about 29 years, and am spoiled by the pedals. I've always enjoyed Hawaiian music, and heard alot of it when I was there recently for 3 weeks. I have my first 8-string and am having lots of fun with it, it's almost like starting over, except I've got some critical techniques down. The equipment is much lighter, also.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 26 Apr 2006 7:37 pm

If you're new to Non Pedal, I suggest that you use the E13th tuning,
like this :-
1. E
2. C#
3. B
4. G#
5. E
6. D
7. B
8. E

BECAUSE the same gauge strings will allow you to go to C6, A6, B11th, and D9. All tunings you can relate to from the pedal steel..
And be aware that there ARE certain tunes that require a PARTICULAR tuning. i.e. Sand = B11 ... Mapuana = B11 ... Hula Blues = E13 ..
SGR = E13 ... Remington Ride = C6 ... Sleepy Lagoon = C6 ... et al.

Jon Kostal · Post by **Jon Kostal** » 29 Apr 2006 11:29 am

Basil,

You have been unbelievably helpful, thanks so much. If it's OK with you, I may email you with some specific questions.

Thanks a million,

Jon[This message was edited by Jon Kostal on 29 April 2006 at 12:30 PM.]

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 29 Apr 2006 5:10 pm

No problem Jon, If I can help you in any way, I'm only to glad to..
just click the 'send email'

OR

just for fun, I have any number of e-mail address'
because of my sites and sever, you can send an e-mail to

wanabee@steel-guitar-hall-of-fame.com
or
dickhead@hawaiian-steel-guitar-hall-of-fame.com
or
kissincousin@european-steel-guitar-hall-of-fame.com

or any name you like...or think is suitable !!!
Try it and see..
Baz[This message was edited by basilh on 29 April 2006 at 06:13 PM.]

Robert Shafer · Post by **Robert Shafer** » 29 Apr 2006 5:22 pm

Sock it to 'em Baz. That was delightful.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 29 Apr 2006 6:06 pm

Ta Robert, I gather you liked it then.. How come we never see you at the "Aloha Dream" conventions ?
Do you play Hawaiian Style ? or what ?

Robert Shafer · Post by **Robert Shafer** » 30 Apr 2006 7:10 pm

Baz.
"Aloha Dream" convention? MMmm that sounds like fun. I've checked your website but can only find historical references. Is there one due? It would be nice to see some 'live' steel playing for a change. There's not a lot of steel playing in this area (apart from me, of course) and it would be great to see it played properly for a change.

You ask if I play "Hawaiian Style? or what?" My 'style' is probably "or what?" I try to play some Hawaiian but it ain't that easy, but I like to try and have had some limited success. I suppose you could you could say that I play 'Free-expressive extemporaneous rub-a-dub stylee'. As a relative newbie to steel and being a total 'non-reader' and life-time student at the 'You hum it, I'll try and play it' School of Music with a reasonable 'ear', my repertoire consists of whatever I can get away with without frightening the cat. I just find that this strange instrument lends itself to so many types of music, not just the ones that it is normally associated with. I am really surprised that it is not heard more. I jam along with anything that catches my ear and sometimes surprise myself. I'm just having fun.