New Jackson Guitar

Charlie Tryon · Post by **Charlie Tryon** » 6 Jan 2007 7:51 am

Well I have the pictures of my new guitar. It is a Jackson and I will be picking it up on my way to Florida. The timing is everything as I get it on my birthday. I think David out did himself on this one.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Jan 2007 7:55 am

Charlie, when and where are you going in Florida?

Our club is in Lake Panasoffkee - about 65 miles north of Tampa.

We have a monthly club jam, and you are invited and we will have a club show on Feb 24th.

Check it out at our web site, www.floridasteelguitarclub.com

Also, Ollie Strong is due in some time this week. The singer he works with, Rod Snow is already here.

Robert Cates · Post by **Robert Cates** » 6 Jan 2007 9:01 am

Hi Charlie and Jack
I am also coming to Florida soon. I will try to make one of the monthly meetings if I can. I am staying in Punta Gorda and I think that its 2 or 3 hours for me to drive.
Charlie, that is a beautiful guitar. You are very lucky boy. Maybe will see all you guys in Florida.

Bob

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Jan 2007 9:08 am

Bob, I've played in Punta Gorda (with Tommy Cash) at several of the RV parks down there. It is a relatively long drive, but straight up I75 to exit 321.

Charlie Tryon · Post by **Charlie Tryon** » 6 Jan 2007 9:21 am

Thanks for the comps on the guitar but I have to tell you David Jackson did a great job at giving me just what I wanted. What a great guy to deal with. I will be staying in Bowling Green Jack.
Olie is in the same park as a friend of mine who I played with for years he plays about every instrument there is and plays all of them well.

Robert Cates · Post by **Robert Cates** » 6 Jan 2007 10:05 am

Hey Charlie
Does it play and sound similiar to the RAINS? Just wondering what you think about them. Both are great I'm sure.
Hey Jack
Who is Tommy Cash and does he play in south west area much? If you ever play down in Punta Gorda this winter let me know so that I can come listen.I need to get out and see lots of players while I'm down there. Not many players up here and lots more pedalers down there...I think that I'm going to like being down there.....

Bob

B. Greg Jones · Post by **B. Greg Jones** » 6 Jan 2007 12:03 pm

Man, thats a sweet looking guitar!!! I love the front apron, and David does some wonderful work!!!

Greg

Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 6 Jan 2007 1:25 pm

I always loved the BUD sound, but was never fond of the mechanicals.. but sweet mother of music.. that is a knock out...I can hardly wait to try one out.

Michael Haselman · Post by **Michael Haselman** » 6 Jan 2007 1:55 pm

Is that a tuner I see mounted on your pad? Damn fine idea, if so.

Jim Gorrie · Post by **Jim Gorrie** » 6 Jan 2007 2:00 pm

Charlie ~ at the risk of embarrassing myself

may I be the first one (at least in this thread) to ask about that gizmo inserted mid-way in the rear pad ? What is it's function ?

... and seein' as I've already put myself at risk ~ what is the reason/function for those 10 vertical screws sticking proud of the peghead (1 at each of the 10 tuning keys) ?

I've never seen any of these features on any PSG before. . .

(Edited to add that Michael's post wasn't in the thread when I started writing this ! )

Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 6 Jan 2007 3:59 pm

jacksonsteelguitars.com

will answer all your questions

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Jan 2007 4:08 pm

Tommy Cash is Johnny Cash's younger brother. I've worked the last 4 years with Tommy here in Florida. Tommy is due either this week or next but he will be working with a different promoter this year (Ken McWilliams). Don't know if he'll be in Punta Gorda this year. We are booked to work with Tommy in Feb 2008 and probably will get to Punta Gorda again.

There is some pictures of Tommy and our band on my web site. www.gulfcoaststeelguitar.com

Don Discher · Post by **Don Discher** » 6 Jan 2007 6:28 pm

Hi Jack, the Tommy Cash show is coming to Sault Ste Marie Canada on April 7th.Are you part of the travelling band ? If so I hope to meet you at the show.
D.D.

Charles Dempsey · Post by **Charles Dempsey** » 6 Jan 2007 7:28 pm

My goodness! That's a beauty.

I checked out the mechanicals on their website. Very cool.

Charlie

Charlie Tryon · Post by **Charlie Tryon** » 6 Jan 2007 8:46 pm

Jim the gizmo in the pad is a tuner and the screws you see are for tuning the lowers. The tuning keys will move when you lower a string. There is a video on the Jackson web site that shows this.

http://www.jacksonsteelguitar.com/

Charlie

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 7 Jan 2007 6:16 am

The Jackson moving tuner and radical changer roller is true innovation, which is sadly lacking in most modern steel guitar manufacturers. Love them or hate them, the use of carbon composite by MSA for their Millennium range was also true innovation.

Too many of today's manufacturers play safe because they dont want to "re-invent the wheel". I reckon the Jackson guitar not only looks good & sounds good but has very functional and efficient mechanics. Hats off to them and other manufacturers who stretch their imagination as engineers.

Charles Dempsey · Post by **Charles Dempsey** » 7 Jan 2007 7:05 pm

Ken Byng wrote:Too many of today's manufacturers play safe because they dont want to "re-invent the wheel". I reckon the Jackson guitar not only looks good & sounds good but has very functional and efficient mechanics. Hats off to them and other manufacturers who stretch their imagination as engineers.

Well, it costs money to re-tool, and it's also a risk if you've already got a selling product. Look at Gibson. Their idea of product innovation is funny looking paint.*

Jackson Guitars had an excellent opportunity, and a chance to differentiate themselves from the other players in the field. In their case it was a smart business move. Heck, I'm thinking about getting one, so they must be doing something right

.

Charlie

*I'm a big fan of Gibson guitars. Can't say I think much of the current product line though.

James Quackenbush · Post by **James Quackenbush** » 7 Jan 2007 7:46 pm

Ken B,
I'm not so sure that many pedal steel companies make their steels the traditional way to " play it safe " ....I think it's more of a business sense by them , knowing that the pedal steel community for the most part is set in their ways ....Change is hard for a lot of players ... There are many that will not play any of the newer innovative pedal steels on the market ...The attitude might be ..."if it ain't wood, it ain't good " ....That leaves out some steels like Sierra , Excel, the MSA ( until the wooden models came out to cover the bases !!.... As time goes on , more an more new players are popping up , who don't have a problem with change, and they will embrace the changes made ....The situation is that everybody win's here !!
Tried and True older style pedal steels are still being made, and some very inovative pedals steels are made .... Old style is GREAT , and so is new !!!... Win/ Win .... Nobody's wrong here, it's just a matter of preference .....If it's a quality instrument , I don't think it matters one way or the other ...Jim

PS...I love the older designs, and I love the newer designs, so I win all the way around !!!...

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 7 Jan 2007 8:37 pm

A big congrats to you, Charlie. That's a beauty.

Joe A. Camacho · Post by **Joe A. Camacho** » 7 Jan 2007 9:43 pm

So, do these guitars sound similar to a Sho-Bud?

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 8 Jan 2007 3:51 am

what is the price range for these Steels and have we heard anything about delivery schedules ?

Price and availaibilty will have an impact on getting them to market.

The Instrument is clearly a beauty though.

Charlie Tryon · Post by **Charlie Tryon** » 8 Jan 2007 5:54 am

OK I will try to answer as many questions as I can here. I delt with Dawn after placing my order on their web site so Jackson is my dealer. After placing my order I got a phone call from David Jackson to go over the order with me to make sure of colour and all the other good stuff. Tony the cost of the guitar is on thier web site but the starting price on the commemorative model single 10 is 3995.00. Then if you want extra things of course the price goes up. I ordered mine in October and part of my placing the order I asked if it could be ready for Feb. David told me there would be no problem to have it ready and as it turned out It is ready 1 month early so I say well done to Mr. David Jackson and all the people who have worked with him on this project. As far as the sound I will let everyone know when I get it and play it with my setup but I think it is save to say it will be awsome. Just to let everyone know I had about 6 phone calls from David to keep me up to date on the progress of the guitar during the building process and I for one was impressed with that.

Charlie

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 8 Jan 2007 8:17 am

Seems strange to me that on such a refined instrument, the gears are exposed on the tuners. Is there some (mechanical) reason for this?

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 8 Jan 2007 9:22 am

The tuning gears on the website are enclosed.
In the changer-end picture on the website, I noticed that one string (the eighth) is attached on the pin while all the others seem to go into a hole in the back of the puller, though there are pins on those, too

Jay Jessup · Post by **Jay Jessup** » 9 Jan 2007 7:59 am

This is just a WAG about those open tuners--but they are most likely Waverly tuners. Waverly makes very high quality (read expensive) tuners to replicate the looks of what you would find on pre war Martin guitars and Gibson Mandolins that work as well as any modern enclosed tuner and I expect if you were looking for a vintage vibe would be a better choice than the Kluson style reproductions currently available. YMMV