Artisan EA-2 - now with legs
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It was mentioned in another post that these have "ultra short" scale length..
How short is "ultra short"? Less than 22.5"?
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How short is "ultra short"? Less than 22.5"?
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The scale length is 21" - you'll want to replace the strings that it comes with - they're basically gauged similar to a light set you'd use on a regular guitar, and as a result of the short scale, feel somewhat loose. As a guide, I'm using John Ely's recommendations http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.html and increasing the gauges slightly for the tuning that I plan to use.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Mike Selecky on 31 October 2005 at 03:30 PM.]</p></FONT>
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I had a show to play last Dec. where I had to play a Hawaiian tune. Bought one of the Artisan laps and it sounded just fine for the job. The only problem I had with it is the black plastic fretboard with the gold lines and markers is VERY hard to see under stage lighting. Don't know what you could do to improve it short of a new fretboard.
Edit. I was thinking about the very short scale on these and the hard to see in stage lighting board. Looks like there is room to move the nut back on these enough to install a 22.5 inch fretboard if you wanted. Anyone tried it?<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bill Hatcher on 01 November 2005 at 05:24 AM.]</p></FONT>
Edit. I was thinking about the very short scale on these and the hard to see in stage lighting board. Looks like there is room to move the nut back on these enough to install a 22.5 inch fretboard if you wanted. Anyone tried it?<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bill Hatcher on 01 November 2005 at 05:24 AM.]</p></FONT>
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An irritation on these is the location of the jack. I drilled a hole between the knobs and moved the jack there. Now I need to find something decorative to put in the old hole...
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I'm sure that I have used up my alloted number of posts on one thread, but I feel the need to answer this question anyway.<SMALL>Gene, I am getting one of these Artisans. What size bar do you recommend</SMALL>
In recent years I have alternated using some of the popular large diameter bars because of the perceived extra sustain on the E9, but they were too heavy for the Artisan so I retrieved my 3.25" Sho-Bud bar that I had previously used for 25-30 years.
I hadn't realized the loss of dexterity I had with the large bars until I started using the small bar again. I am now enjoying again using the old Sho-Bud bar for playing my D-10.
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Brad, don't forget to give us your review and opinion of the Artisan after you've had time to check it out!
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I like the legs on that thing. There's actually a gauge for setting to the right height consistently. Nice.
Heck, the legs & mounts I bought to put on my melobar cost about as much as the whole artisan set.
Looks like the changed the pickup on this newer model. <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Chris Walke on 05 November 2005 at 09:14 AM.]</p></FONT>
Heck, the legs & mounts I bought to put on my melobar cost about as much as the whole artisan set.
Looks like the changed the pickup on this newer model. <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Chris Walke on 05 November 2005 at 09:14 AM.]</p></FONT>
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I finally received my EA-2 today after it being back ordered for months. It came well packed, with the legs in a separate bag. I wish the bags were somehow connected, but I think this is a good cost-saving compromise.
The three legs are made of thin metal, but feel sturdy when installed, and fit well into the recessed holes provided. I think they've upgraded the tuners as well - they seem much nicer than I remember on the EA-1. The connectors are tight and should last for a while. Because the leg holes are recessed, you can play this guitar on your lap like the EA-1 without discomfort.
The bottom part of the legs (the part that fits into the top) is numbered in inches up to 35. I like this feature, because you can set the legs to the same mark each time you set up.
My biggest problem is the legs aren't long enough to play while standing. I'm only 5'8" tall and with the legs fully extended, the guitar comes up to my crotch, so I have to lean over slightly to play. If you're playing while seated, the legs are arranged so they stay out of your way.
The bridge is an adjustable bridge, which I don't think I'll ever adjust. The nut is made of wood. If I had to upgrade it, it doesn't look like it would be a big deal.
The fretboard is black plastic with gold paint for the frets, and is screwed into the wooden body. The frets appear to be accurately placed. There are fret markers in Roman numerals at III, V, VII, IX, and XII, with the same markers repeating in the next octave (rather than XV, XX, etc.). The paint on the fretboard looks like it will come off easily, but I don't plan on fretting about it.
The tone and volume controls work as expected. The pickup is a generic black pickup. I don't have an amp here at work to plug it in, but I'll try to experiment with it when I take it home.
I put on a new set of GM Lap Steel strings (.018 to .056), tuned it to open D (bass to treble D A D F# A D), and played for a while. Even unplugged, this has a pretty good sound.
All in all this is a great deal for $80 (including shipping). It won't replace any of my other guitars, but it's a good one to have hanging around the office or in the bedroom, and if it gets damaged, I won't lose any sleep over it. I wish the legs were longer, but that's about my only complaint.
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The three legs are made of thin metal, but feel sturdy when installed, and fit well into the recessed holes provided. I think they've upgraded the tuners as well - they seem much nicer than I remember on the EA-1. The connectors are tight and should last for a while. Because the leg holes are recessed, you can play this guitar on your lap like the EA-1 without discomfort.
The bottom part of the legs (the part that fits into the top) is numbered in inches up to 35. I like this feature, because you can set the legs to the same mark each time you set up.
My biggest problem is the legs aren't long enough to play while standing. I'm only 5'8" tall and with the legs fully extended, the guitar comes up to my crotch, so I have to lean over slightly to play. If you're playing while seated, the legs are arranged so they stay out of your way.
The bridge is an adjustable bridge, which I don't think I'll ever adjust. The nut is made of wood. If I had to upgrade it, it doesn't look like it would be a big deal.
The fretboard is black plastic with gold paint for the frets, and is screwed into the wooden body. The frets appear to be accurately placed. There are fret markers in Roman numerals at III, V, VII, IX, and XII, with the same markers repeating in the next octave (rather than XV, XX, etc.). The paint on the fretboard looks like it will come off easily, but I don't plan on fretting about it.
The tone and volume controls work as expected. The pickup is a generic black pickup. I don't have an amp here at work to plug it in, but I'll try to experiment with it when I take it home.
I put on a new set of GM Lap Steel strings (.018 to .056), tuned it to open D (bass to treble D A D F# A D), and played for a while. Even unplugged, this has a pretty good sound.
All in all this is a great deal for $80 (including shipping). It won't replace any of my other guitars, but it's a good one to have hanging around the office or in the bedroom, and if it gets damaged, I won't lose any sleep over it. I wish the legs were longer, but that's about my only complaint.
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Thank you Brad for your critique of the Artisan.
As you know, it was never intended to be state of the art, just a stair-step in the progression to a real steel guitar. With legs, or withour legs, it is only an entry level non-pedal steel guitar.
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As you know, it was never intended to be state of the art, just a stair-step in the progression to a real steel guitar. With legs, or withour legs, it is only an entry level non-pedal steel guitar.
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