Anyone remember these old west coast players?

Bill Perry · Post by **Bill Perry** » 18 Sep 2006 12:06 pm

What about Ray Austin remember Him?

Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 18 Sep 2006 12:54 pm

Those were great times. I bought Bookie's old Fender D-8 from him in Vegas, I believe he was playing with Tommy Strange. Jay Dee re-set the pedals for me; I still have his old Fender foot volume control, that he sold me with the guitar with the tone control on top.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 18 Sep 2006 2:25 pm

Sure, I know Ray Austin... I sold him a Session 500. I think he's in the Fort Worth area. I wonder if he still has that old Edsel he used to drive around....

Roger Pietz · Post by **Roger Pietz** » 18 Sep 2006 3:57 pm

Don't forget Lonnie Carrol in Oregon he played with Buck Owens, Rose Maddox and Jimmy Dickens.

Billy Wilson · Post by **Billy Wilson** » 18 Sep 2006 4:09 pm

How bout Bud Duncan,with Rose M? He's a fiddler now. damn good one too.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 18 Sep 2006 4:16 pm

Let's not forget Les "Carrottop" Anderson with Spade Cooley.

John McClung · Post by **John McClung** » 18 Sep 2006 8:13 pm

I started playing steel in LA in 1977, and there were so many great and not-so-great places to play, how I miss those days!

Some names from that era into the 80's:
Steve Fishell (with Emmylou Harris, but maybe Jann Browne before, anyone know that fact?)

Steve Silver

Bill Weingarden (where'd he vanish to? Strangest style I've ever heard, but he knew every song, lick and intro there was)

Dave Zeigler (with Gerald Ray, first steeler I met in L.A., and made me fall in love with a chorus through 2 amps)

Gary Morse (doing great in Nashville these days)

Mike Fried (road work now with Gary Alan, and working at Bobbe Seymour's store, I believe)

JB Crabtree (deceased about 3 years ago)

I'm sure I've forgotten a few, no disrespect meant!

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Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 18 Sep 2006 9:01 pm

Johnny Pez....How about Dan Tyack,Steve Silvers,Pete Grant,Ethan Reily,Gary Brandon,Kevin Quick,Dana Keller,John Norene.

chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 18 Sep 2006 9:03 pm

John, I'm curious about JB Crabtree. I have his Twin. -- chas

Bill Stafford · Post by **Bill Stafford** » 19 Sep 2006 2:11 am

What a group of steel players! Lots of memories for me here.
I was just out of Mississippi, in the navy in the San Deigo area. Used to hitch hike north to stand outside the club where Wade Ray was playing-not old enough to be allowed in the club. Did not meet any one in the band but remember Wade announcding his steel players name- Eddie ------(?). Did not catch his last name, but did not see an "Eddie" on this list. Would anyone remember who he was? Great player. (Had to be in order to be on that band stand with Wade Ray-one of my all time idols). And I finally got to realize one of my dreams of being on the band stand with Wade at Scotty's in St. Louis. Thanks Scotty.
Bill Stafford

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 19 Sep 2006 2:50 am

Some of thoose players are still around, but all the places are gone now. They've either closed entirely or gone dark or Latino.

As far as I know, there are only 3 or 4 places left to play in the whole L.A. area. Sad.

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 19 Sep 2006 4:25 am

My friend, lead picker extrordinaire, Ray Riggs was in the LA area for a while. I know he worked on some movie soundtracks and also worked at Disney. Later he was one of the horn players in the Bakersfield Brass.

Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 19 Sep 2006 5:21 am

John Mc.....I'd forgotten about Steve Silver. He worked with us at the old Swizzle Stik in Huntington Beach for over a year and we got to be pretty good buds. Bill Weingarten? A good player but very unorthodox in his approach as he used no thumbpick and three fingerpicks. His right hand used to jump up and down over that old ShoBud like a hammer but he played anything he wanted to! Dave Ziegler? He was the first one I ever actually saw who used a Universal tuning but it was a D9th to A6th. I haven't seen him in years but Mike Perlowin stays in touch with him on a regular basis. All these guys were later steelers than the ones in my inital post but they were great. Anyone remember Richard Smith, Al Parret, Stewart Goldman, or Al Meyers? Richard Smith was a guitarist who went to steel and became pretty good on it. Later he wrote a book on the history of Fender guitars and some "Rare Bird" articles in Guitar Player Magazine. Al Meyers worked with us at the Swizzle Stik for a while and was a clone of Johnny Davis even down to the Fender 400 and Johnny's tuning, also a great lead guitarist as well.........JH in Va.

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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!

GaryHoetker · Post by **GaryHoetker** » 21 Sep 2006 5:30 pm

Jelly Sanders, Bob Morris,Jim Pierce, Johnny Cuvielo, Gene Moles

Michael Brewer · Post by **Michael Brewer** » 22 Sep 2006 1:16 pm

John Daugherty

Roy Counts and I were in the Air Force together in 1951. We had a little group and did a few small jobs around St. Louis. Roy was from Berea, KY as I recall. He and I also worked with Jack Tucker in the early 50's in Southern Calif. I would sure like to correspond with him if he is still with us.

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Michael Brewer · Post by **Michael Brewer** » 22 Sep 2006 1:27 pm

Bill Stafford

Wade Ray's steel man was Eddie Martin. The last time I heard him he was with Wade at the Red Flame on South Vermont. A great stand up player. He played one of the first Fender quads.

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Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 23 Sep 2006 8:27 am

Anyone remember Dick Stubbs? He played with no fingerpicks and did it quite well....JH in Va.

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Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 25 Sep 2006 1:11 am

In 1949 Wade Ray recorded for Red Redfern's Cowtown label, the resulting 78 rpm six song release featured Wade's group with Bob Morgan (bass), Dick Morgan (guitar), Jimmy Madrid (drums) and Freddie Tavares (steel).
He then moved to Capitol Records before signing with RCA Records in 1951.
The abover line-up was the band at the Cowtown in 1949, a gig they shared with a especially downsized version of Hank Penny's band, although Penny used his full band at his Ballroom gig.

The Morgan brothers worked with a variety of bandleaders, I think another Morgan later joined Wade, and I guess most folks know their sis Jayne P. Morgan from her stint on the gong show, although she was part of Hank Penny's band in the early 1950s.

Chuck Campbell · Post by **Chuck Campbell** » 25 Sep 2006 3:55 am

Jerry, I was planning to ask that very question. Yes, I remember Dick well. No finger picks and a stand up triple neck Finder. What a great player. I played many times with him at Ollie’s/ Oakieville in Fontana, Grans in Redlands, and a few more that I can't remember. I heard he died some time ago.

Roy McKinney · Post by **Roy McKinney** » 25 Sep 2006 4:29 am

Hey Chuck Campbell, when did you play at Ollie’s/ Oakieville and who were you playing with. I worked that honky tonk quiet a bit back in the very early 60's with a guy named Steve Johnson. The last I heard of Ollie, he sold out and left for Mexico with his waitress.

Stephen Silver · Post by **Stephen Silver** » 25 Sep 2006 7:56 am

After being a lurker for so long, and now seeing so many friends I had thought I had lost touch with, I finally joined up and boy seeing Jerry, Stu, Gary Vanderlinde, Brandin, Fish, John McClung, Bill Bergren, and all the other great musicians I have had the pleasure of knowing and working with brings back so many great memories. I mean come on Stu, did you have to remind me of Duke Davis?!!!!!!!

I'll catch y'all up in another post later on but I did want to make my first post here.

Steve Silver

Btw, how does someone post pictures here?

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 25 Sep 2006 9:19 am

Steve:Welcome...sorry about Duke Davis,did you know that his pit bull attacked him while he was sleeping on the couch?Good Boy! here's how you can post pics http://photobucket.com/,Bill Bergren is on the forum?How'd I miss him?
Stu

Tim Kauffroath · Post by **Tim Kauffroath** » 25 Sep 2006 10:21 am

How about Chuck Gillette who played in the bay area 50's/60s? He played a Cherry Bigsby Triple neck. I remember he backed up Webb Pierce a couple times and played with Merle Travis a bit.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 25 Sep 2006 11:17 am

Duke's pit bull attacked him?!
I just did some tracks for him....long distance with ProTools.

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 25 Sep 2006 12:28 pm

Skip:Yeah that dog bit him in the skull and then held on,he had scars from where the teeth dug in,It was right before I went to France with him 81"?.I think his wife shot him,not Duke the dog.