CMA New York

Jim Walker · Post by **Jim Walker** » 16 Nov 2005 1:53 pm

I was saying just the other day, I can't wait to see all the SGF posts about the CMA Show. Nothing like an Awards show to stir things up 'round here HeHe!!!!

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Buddy Griffin · Post by **Buddy Griffin** » 16 Nov 2005 2:02 pm

Steve, you are 100% correct. I hear a whole bunch more Paul than Jerry. It is about time the CMA recognizes Paul Franklin and introduces him to people other than us PSG freaks. Besides Jerry's already won. Who knows, next year it could be a drummer or a bass player, they deserve recognition also.

James Cann · Post by **James Cann** » 16 Nov 2005 2:07 pm

The whole thing was a bit sad, as I've worn out all the other, more acerbic, comments I've made at various times, to my wife's continuing misery.

I do hand it, though, to "Vinny" Gill for his well-done Brooklynese.

John Lacey · Post by **John Lacey** » 16 Nov 2005 2:09 pm

I was disappointed when the steel player took a ride on "Help me Make it thru the Nite" and the mic was turned off.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 16 Nov 2005 2:14 pm

I could hear Wayne's solo loud and clear.

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Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 16 Nov 2005 2:21 pm

I could hear it loud and clear as well. My eyes welled up, the solo was that good.

Calvin Walley · Post by **Calvin Walley** » 16 Nov 2005 2:24 pm

i stopped watching the CMA some time back in the 70s. that was about when i stopped buying records and listening to the radio

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Roger Francis · Post by **Roger Francis** » 16 Nov 2005 2:35 pm

The "Vinny" Gill thing was great, i just wish they would have given him more time on that little skit,say 30 min. or so[This message was edited by Roger Francis on 16 November 2005 at 02:36 PM.]

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 16 Nov 2005 3:37 pm

Now, Brother Eaton,,,Since a lot of my time was spent playing in clubs in Healdsberg, I only know what the little darlin's there wear!!!

Sonny Priddy · Post by **Sonny Priddy** » 16 Nov 2005 4:25 pm

Give LeeAnn The right Songs And She Can Sing. Sing. Sing. SONNY.

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John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 16 Nov 2005 4:42 pm

I'm right with you, Jeremy...

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 16 Nov 2005 4:51 pm

Waylon was right.

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 16 Nov 2005 5:03 pm

Maybe it was a reginal thing because I could not here the steel break in"Help Me Make It Through The Night" either! It was as if as others have said"his mic was turned off"..sure did look pretty though!

Butch Foster · Post by **Butch Foster** » 16 Nov 2005 5:09 pm

Jeremy, that was Keith Urban who gave the well deserved recognition to all road players.
Although I would have enjoyed the dobro backing to Brad's song, I thought the solo format was great, super guitar backing that complemented the great vocals.

Gaylon Mathews · Post by **Gaylon Mathews** » 16 Nov 2005 5:56 pm

Butch,

Dierks thanked his road players too naming each one of them.

John,

I had a similar thing happen the other day. I was on our bus and watched the CMT Outlaws show and could hear Paul Franklin really good. I watched it again at home a few days later and couldn't hear a single note that he played. I don't know if it was a problem with my cable company or my TV. Go figure!

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Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 16 Nov 2005 6:03 pm

again at home a few days later and couldn't hear a single note that he played. I don't know if it was a problem with my cable company or my TV.

Sounds like when Clive Davis ordered a remix of the Poco album: erase that whiny thing!

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 16 Nov 2005 8:04 pm

VERY,VERY,VERY,half a--- rock and roll show,Country? Don't think so!!! NO WAY.

Bruce Meyer · Post by **Bruce Meyer** » 16 Nov 2005 8:34 pm

Most of the time, I don't watch any awards shows. I was in a motel room last night and watched in a moment of weakness. There were good spots, some of which were named above.

But the influence of the record companies trying to de-countrify the performers and the award show was very apparent. Witness:

- What the heck was Bon Jovi doing there? His performance and material were weak. I've heard better at the local bars.

- Couldn't Alan Jackson have sung a country song? "Wonderful Tonight" was outdated and corny 20 years ago. Geeeeez.

- Elton John and Dolly had no chemistry whatsoever. The performance was weak.

The show belongs in Nashville on CMT or GAC.

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 16 Nov 2005 11:42 pm

I'm still not sure why it matters where the electronic noise I pump (voluntarily or not) into my living room comes from.
-John
p.s. Fight the White Noise
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Frank Parish · Post by **Frank Parish** » 17 Nov 2005 12:34 am

I wish I could hear the performance with Willie Nelson, Nora Jones, and Paul Simon just once more. Seems like Ms. Jones was having a bad time finding the right notes to play and the sustain pedal got stuck. These guys needed tracks and should've lip synced.

Gretchen Wilson didn't put on any airs and was truly herself, very nicely done I thought and you can tell she doesn't take it for granted. I heard a long time ago to never wear yellow or green on stage and that dress Womack had on sure proved it. All I can say is "think black!"

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 17 Nov 2005 2:30 am

Where was Kid Rock when you needed him? It's hard to imagine he was too drunk to perform, as that's never stopped him before.... I fell asleep from all the overstimulation just before the George Jones/Ozzy Osbourne duet on "Red River Valley." Did they rock?

Joe Casey · Post by **Joe Casey** » 17 Nov 2005 6:55 am

I thought it was a great mix of old and new. Plenty of good Steel guitar. The price to get into the event was believe it or not, some paid over two grand a ticket.A far cry from someone paying 10 bucks to get in to hear us. There was something for everyone on last nights show.As a traditional Country fan I enjoyed it.It was in New York, It did have one of its highest ratings ever.I guess next years show will be in Nashville again.Wonder if there is enough Country fans there to pull of a Country show?

and get 2000 at the door?

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Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 17 Nov 2005 8:35 am

Joe, I think when a show of this type tries (in this case, too hard) to be all things to all people, it fails for the obvious reason -lack of integrity. It succeded in propping up it's ratings though, which had been sagging like Dolly's boobs - and THAT is what it was all about ....

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 17 Nov 2005 9:01 am

Although there was more country than in recent years, it's still, at best, a 3-hour commercial. Willie and Nora looked like neither one knew where the other was going. (Who was following who?

) The duo with Dolly and Elton was pretty weird, wasn't it? Elton is great, but he was clearly out of his element. Dolly did what she could. I guess that was a kind of yin-and-yang thing. "Imagine" might be a cool song...but on a country awards show? Geeze! Gimme a break!

On the plus side, there was some good steel playing evident, and some good "face time" for a couple of steelers. The bullcrap "video pinball machine" graphics on the big screens was distracting, and seemed childish. But hey, I guess that's what the young people are queer for nowadays. There was plenty of glitz (New Yawkers' like glitz), and enough rock-stuff to satisfy the younger crowd. I guess there was something for everyone, but putting up with all the "political" crap to hear a few good songs got old real fast.

Can't we do an awards show without making some kind of "statement"?

I guess not.

What? $2,000 a ticket??? You couldn't pay me enough to be a part of that "circus"!

Like I said. The whole thing seemed to emphasize commercialism, and not the music.

Praise God for Austin City Limits.

It's probably the last real "music show" on TV. Enjoy it while you can.

Doug Childress · Post by **Doug Childress** » 17 Nov 2005 10:03 am

Thanks to each of you for your input to this discussion. So far we have had responses from 22 states and one country outside the U.S. The group includes Texas, Tennessee, Minnesota, Washington, Indiana, Arizona, Kentucky, Alabama, California, Utah, Georgia, Mississippi, Nevada, Maryland, Canada, New Mexico, Virginia, New York, Colorado, New Jersey, and Florida. Most opinions expressed so far have tend to be of the belief that the show could be improved. We'll just have to wait until next year and see where the latest commercial trends are directing the herd.