Buck Owens early recording

Victor Denance · Post by **Victor Denance** » 22 May 2005 12:44 am

Who was his steel player (Tom Brumley ?) on his early recordings (Close Up The Honky Tonks...)
I just love the playin' and tone.
What guitar did the steeler use ? Bigsby ? Bud Permanent ?
Definately the gritty organic old tone I love !

Thanks !

Vic

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 22 May 2005 1:13 am

TOM BRUMLEY!
It's on the same album as "Together Again".

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 22 May 2005 2:29 am

The "Early" recordings had Ralph Mooney on them. Tom Brumley came along later.

Don Sulesky · Post by **Don Sulesky** » 22 May 2005 4:41 am

The early Buck Owens Lp I have shows Jay McDonald on steel and Don Rich playing fiddle at the time.

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 22 May 2005 5:38 am

The credits say Tom played on it. So, I would say that it is a ZB thru a Fender Twin.

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Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 22 May 2005 6:50 am

"Close Up The Honky Tonks" was recorded on January 28, 1964 with Tom Brumley on Steel. It appeared on the album "Together Again/My Heart Skips A Beat" (Capitol ST 2135) which was released July 20, 1964. The album includes songs that were recorded between 1961 and 1964.

These tracks have Ralph Mooney:

Save The Last Dance For Me
Storm Of Love

These tracks have Jay McDonald:

Over And Over Again
Truck Drivin' Man
Getting Used To Loving You

And these are the ones with Tom Brumley:

My Heart Skips A Beat
Close Up The Honky Tonks
I Don't Hear You
Together Again
A-11
Ain't It Amazing Gracie
Hello Trouble

I think that Tom got his first ZB after the January session in '64, so that one might have been played on a Fender 1000, not sure about that...

Kind Regards, Walter

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Bill Maynard · Post by **Bill Maynard** » 22 May 2005 8:15 am

I may be wrong but I thought I saw a listing one time which had Fuzzy Owens playing steel with Buck in the early days and recordings. I think he played one of Fenders early pedal steels also...

Victor Denance · Post by **Victor Denance** » 25 May 2005 2:45 am

So these recordings feature Fender pedal steel all the way ???

Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 25 May 2005 5:27 am

That's Ralph on the early hits on his Fender 1000. Tunes like:
Excuse Me I Think I Got a Heartache
Under Your Spell Again
Above and Beyond and some other good 'un..JH

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Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 25 May 2005 6:50 am

The first time I heard Buck with Ralph just blew my mind; it's rare that the correct synergy is accomplished when the right guys get together.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 25 May 2005 8:12 am

Tom told me that both Together Again and Close Up the Honky Tonks were recorded on Fender 1000's, but two different guitars. This explains the noticeable tone difference betweeen the two cuts. Together was cut with the broken 1000 that Buck had for Tom when he arrived in California, which probably was an older one with the Jazzmaster pickup. Close Up was cut on the newer guitar with the Jaguar style pickup.

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Victor Denance · Post by **Victor Denance** » 25 May 2005 8:25 am

Great infos !

Thanks a lot,

Cheers

Al Udeen · Post by **Al Udeen** » 25 May 2005 9:30 am

I was at a Buck Owens show at the Minneapolis Auditorium back stage with Tom Brumley in 1966, Tom was playing a Fender 1000 tuned to Eb & we were talking about string breakage, then during the show, Tom broke a 3rd string, I think the ZB came along soon after? au

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 25 May 2005 11:48 am

Is it correct that the Fender 1000 had no knee levers?

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 25 May 2005 12:44 pm

Victor, sorry, I forgot to mention that the cuts w/tom were recorded in two sessions, one on January 28, 1964, the other one on June 10, 1964 (on this session thy recorded A-11 and Hello Trouble), th other tracks were recorded in January of 64 with the Fender 1000.

I remember Tom telling the story that he had a discussion with somebody one time who insisted that he used a knee lever on "Together Again". Tom stated that this guy s so convincing that he alsmost believed it himself!

Kind Regards, Walter

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Tyler Macy · Post by **Tyler Macy** » 26 May 2005 12:59 pm

"The first time I heard Buck with Ralph just blew my mind; it's rare that the correct synergy is accomplished when the right guys get together."

Mooney has that chemistry with ANYONE he plays with (Some say his work with Waylon is his best). It is MOONEY! He has the best touch in the world.

Dave Zirbel · Post by **Dave Zirbel** » 27 May 2005 11:45 am

Up to what year did Moon perform and record with his Fender steel? Did he use it with Waylon?

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Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 27 May 2005 1:28 pm

I think he played a Sho-Bud when he was with Waylon.

Kind Regards, Walter

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Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 27 May 2005 10:14 pm

On "Corn Pickin' And Slick Slidin' ( 1968 ) Mooney was still playing a Fender.

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 28 May 2005 7:18 am

Moon also played a Fender for a bit with Waylon. The guitar used to be in Waylon's museum in Nashville.